MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby bostonDJ on 17 Apr 2014, 18:10

Yes, the cable is called 'Cinnamon' cable from AudioQuest...supposed to be top-of-the-line stuff. Try to add pic...$110 for only 6 feet of cord.

Tonight I will mix with audio and let u know if I notice a slow down. I wanted to work thru the 'tearing' problem with just video. Nothing has crashed yet so that's a plus!...lol

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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby bostonDJ on 20 Apr 2014, 05:22

Hey Dan & FigDJ,

I mixed with the Vfx for 4 straight hours today. I mixed mp3 songs on Deck A & B and videos on the samplers 1-8 also music vids mp4's on A & B along with FX's, video crossfades, searching through Collections, sometimes using 4 visual vids at same time along with song playing live....No Crashes at ALL in Cross...Rock Solid!!
Dan, there were no slow downs or degradation in mp3 sound quality at all. All effects work well. Very Impressed with the stability now. Some of my music videos need to be replaced with legit vids so I will be trying out Promo Only. I have spoken with the reps at the company and also read posts here about Promo Only and I am looking forward to getting my music vid library legitimately started.

FigDJ, I tried for 1 hour to map the little +/- #16 Fine pitchbend key via Cross on the Vfx. I made a copy of our version 6 and added mapping for Player 1 on the Course pitch bend class. When it says to press/move a MIDI button that u want to assign I pressed the + side of the #16 key. NO RESPONSE. Nothing happens. I even tried mapping using the -(minus) side of key...nothing!

I would like to map the #16 key for a 'Holder Button' command rather than 'Toggle'. In other words each time I press the + it should go up a bit...press again and up a bit more...etc. Same for the -(minus) side. Toggle will go up all the way and when u press again it goes down all the way. That is too extreme. Holder is good... Do u know why the mapping is not responding? I am going by the manual. I figure if the #15 Pitch Slider ever fails, I can use the #16 to pitch bend a bit.

We can't program the <Shift> #16 because it is already changing the overall pitch/key of the song. That key config works fine.

Thoughts welcome...I am almost ready to go live on a gig. I am shooting for the end of May. Thanks...
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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby bostonDJ on 20 Apr 2014, 05:28

FigDJ,
If we map the course pitch bend we can just do it for 4 players only. So when Deck C & D are active, via the press of the center/big knob, the +/- #16 should respond when pressed. There doesn't seem to be any pitch bend capabilities for samplers so a 4-deck mapping would be cool. Thanks.
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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby FigDJ on 20 Apr 2014, 14:09

bostonDJ wrote:FigDJ,
If we map the course pitch bend we can just do it for 4 players only. So when Deck C & D are active, via the press of the center/big knob, the +/- #16 should respond when pressed. There doesn't seem to be any pitch bend capabilities for samplers so a 4-deck mapping would be cool. Thanks.


When I mapped the Vfx, I tried to follow the layout dsign for the controller as it has always been done by Mixvibes ( I don't have to follow their method since I don't work for them but I tried to stay true to their method). In doing so the + and - are maped as they provided and is labeled on the Vfx.

The alternative is to
1. map the key semitones to Shift+ pitch slider(a rick from the Pioneer DDJ-SX mapping).
2. map the + and - to coarse pitch bend holder button.
3. map Shift+ + to pitch mode
4. map Shift+ - to pitch range

That follows the model for the UMCP-2 and adds the trick from the DDJ-SX but breaks the labeling on the Vfx. You would have to remember what the buttons do despite the labeling.

This would allow you to keep the key semitones for all 4 decks, program the coarse pitch bend for all 4 decks and pitch bend for the samplers. As of lately I figured out how to map a 2 deck controller like the UMCP-2 and the Vfx to control every configuration.
Example
when using 2 decks and 2 samplers
Switching on the left is between Player 1 and Sampler 1
Switching on the right is between Player 2 and Sampler 2

when using 4 decks
Switching on the left is between Player 1 and Player 3
Switching on the right is between Player 2 and Player 4

You can use mixed modes too i.e. 3 decks and 1 sampler on either side and all sampler controls are map. The thing is that it does not follow labels very well when in sampler mode you would have to know what does what. Food for thought on your workflow.
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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby bostonDJ on 21 Apr 2014, 01:14

Hi FigDJ, if you could just map the + and - to coarse pitch bend holder button for 4 decks that would be great.
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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby bostonDJ on 25 Apr 2014, 17:31

FigDJ wrote
The alternative is to
1. map the key semitones to Shift+ pitch slider(a rick from the Pioneer DDJ-SX mapping).
2. map the + and - to coarse pitch bend holder button.
3. map Shift+ + to pitch mode
4. map Shift+ - to pitch range


Hi FigDJ, is it possible to write the code right into the mapping file itself to perform just the #2 step above ONLY? I would need it to work for a 4 player set-up only...I am not too concerned with having pitch bend functionality on the Samplers.
#16 +/- key should kick in for coarse pitch bend Holder response when each Player becomes active. I think it has something to do with the ML3 & ML4 parts of the code.
Trying to program the mapping from within Cross 3.0 does nothing with the + side of #16 key! No response. If not, then I will live with the present mapping. Thank you.
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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby bostonDJ on 30 Apr 2014, 14:27

Hi FigDJ & all,

Never mind about the mapping. My #16 is working but faulty on the + side. I have to literally press it all the way hard right in order to make contact. The - side is fine. No big deal. May be in time I will get it checked out but I do have the pitch sliders. So the ver. 6 mapping that was uploaded to this post is what I am working with. Thanks to FiigDJ & Dan we know have a good working map for the Vfx Control under Cross.
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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby daniel clark on 30 Apr 2014, 23:09

:cool: you are welcome ,, even though i only supplied lip service ,, figdj and your self did the leg work ,, good race :!: :cool:
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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby bostonDJ on 20 May 2014, 20:35

Just wanted to say that after all the hard work on this post we finally rolled out Mixvibes Cross 3.0 last Sunday at a graduation party using the Vfx controller. We had music videos and visuals playing on the big monitor and the audio was pristine. It was flawless!! No crashes. It was a big hit with the crowd and a great addition to our DJ service. It's a bit more to transport but well worth it. At one point I had 3 visuals playing/blended in the sampler section while playing full-length mp3's on the top players. The text titler came in very handy for you can send out a message on the fly...

Everything was great. I can't wait to use it again this weekend at a wedding in Vermont.

Cross 3.0 seems to be what I needed and I definitely reccommend it to anyone who is on the fence about it. Very good product indeed. :)
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Re: MIDI Mapping Vfx Control in Cross 3.0

Postby daniel clark on 20 May 2014, 21:14

:cool: Do you want the link for the suggestion of Cross at the beginning of this journey :eek: ,, thanks to all the mixvibes family we get that satisified feeling :mrgreen:
KEEP MAKING THE MUSIC :!: AND VIDEOS :eek: :mrgreen:
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