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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 06 Dec 2016, 16:25

FigDJ wrote:
Activated Soundwave wrote:One last question FigDJ am I correct in thinking that MIDI ch 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 are spare on the MCX for other controllers ?

Thanks in advance

According to the MIDI table they are not in use.

Also, I know that PMs is probably better but I am trying to keep the testing open to anyone that may want to join us.


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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby FigDJ on 06 Dec 2016, 17:34

Activated Soudwave said
Although as you are aware the pad colours do not go out, until I press any deck select button, for future reference.

I said
Just to be clear. Example
On deck 1
Any number of pads lit up for the locators. When you press Shift + pad to delete the locator (cue point) the LED does not go out but the locator is deleted. Is that correct? Then if you press the #1 deck select button the LEDS go out correctly?

I need this clarification before I send the next test. Must have the locator LEDs working properly before moving forward.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 06 Dec 2016, 18:05

FigDJ wrote:Activated Soudwave said
Although as you are aware the pad colours do not go out, until I press any deck select button, for future reference.

I said
Just to be clear. Example
On deck 1
Any number of pads lit up for the locators. When you press Shift + pad to delete the locator (cue point) the LED does not go out but the locator is deleted. Is that correct? Then if you press the #1 deck select button the LEDS go out correctly?

I need this clarification before I send the next test. Must have the locator LEDs working properly before moving forward.


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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby FigDJ on 06 Dec 2016, 18:21

MCX8000Test11.mappings
OK Please try test 11. for the lights in Cue mode again. Once that test is complete let me know and I have some additional test using the same file.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 06 Dec 2016, 21:26

Going to test this now, got a couple of hours spare before I settle down for the night.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 06 Dec 2016, 21:38

Test 11 completed, all exactly as described before, all okay and working well.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby FigDJ on 06 Dec 2016, 21:48

Activated Soundwave wrote:Test 11 completed, all exactly as described before, all okay and working well.


So this is no longer True
On deck 1
Any number of pads lit up for the locators. When you press Shift + pad to delete the locator (cue point) the LED does not go out but the locator is deleted. Is that correct? Then if you press the #1 deck select button the LEDS go out correctly?
Then the lights turn off when the shift button is used.

If so , here is the next test with the same file.
Deck 1
CUE MODE with some locator already set.
Press ROLL
Does the ROLL MODE button lights up?

While in this mode does pressing a pad changes the locators.

Reset the conditions and repeat the test, however this time press the ROLL MODE twice. Same results?
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby FigDJ on 06 Dec 2016, 21:56

I forgot to ask.

Do the channel meter LEDs work?
Do the master meter LEDs work? I am particularly interested in the master meter because there are two meter bars for Right and Left but the documentation only listed one parameter address.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 06 Dec 2016, 22:22

FigDJ wrote:I forgot to ask.

Do the channel meter LEDs work?
Do the master meter LEDs work? I am particularly interested in the master meter because there are two meter bars for Right and Left but the documentation only listed one parameter address.


Yes they are working, but having the green go into one yellow which is technically about perfect allowing a second maybe third yellow at the max for tracks that are all mastered equally too todays pro standard, but all in all 1-2 yellow is the best max to maintain for a clean mix.
But in relation to the gain it is not balanced very well for some one that is technical in the mix its poor, as when the CH Led are at the two yellow the gain should be around half way up if not a little over that, but in this case the gain is just short of 1/4 way up if not less, so the reason being this does not give you any headroom everything is running really hot and this has many downsides, because although gain is to balance the overall mix, it is also best used as another fader of sorts as their is never a mix I do without consistent use and adjustments through out, quite technical with many reasons to have much more flexibility and everything balance around half way if not a little over most probably as the tracks/songs I tested are hot themselves but a good test track/s.

will post again in a few minutes need to second look the master LED again.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby FigDJ on 06 Dec 2016, 22:42

Activated Soundwave wrote:
FigDJ wrote:I forgot to ask.

Do the channel meter LEDs work?
Do the master meter LEDs work? I am particularly interested in the master meter because there are two meter bars for Right and Left but the documentation only listed one parameter address.


Yes they are working, but having the green go into one yellow which is technically about perfect allowing a second maybe third yellow at the max for tracks that are all mastered equally too todays pro standard, but all in all 1-2 yellow is the best max to maintain for a clean mix.
But in relation to the gain it is not balanced very well for some one that is technical in the mix its poor, as when the CH Led are at the two yellow the gain should be around half way up if not a little over that, but in this case the gain is just short of 1/4 way up if not less, so the reason being this does not give you any headroom everything is running really hot and this has many downsides, because although gain is to balance the overall mix, it is also best used as another fader of sorts as their is never a mix I do without consistent use and adjustments through out, quite technical with many reasons to have much more flexibility and everything balance around half way if not a little over most probably as the tracks/songs I tested are hot themselves but a good test track/s.

will post again in a few minutes need to second look the master LED again.


There is no room for adjustment on this. The channel LEDs is the measured output that Cross have for each channel before the crossfader. The master meter is the sum of all the channel levels as measured and output to the controller by Cross after the crossfader. Also notice that the master meter LEDs are a shorter strip as compared to the channel meter so the ranges are different. I was just concern that I at least got them to light up. The concern with the master meter is due to the right and channel indicator since the documentation for the controller only provided one address. Normally when the documentation provides only one address the physical controller doesn't have to meter strips.
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