xone 23c and Cross le

[Playrok]

Hey guys,
first thing, it is really hard to find Cross vinyl out there, i had to purchase the whole DVS (with software, which i do not need from what xone says as it can control vinyl) which i am waiting for but while testing i found a few issues that i caanot find answers to.

when i play a track on Cross le, i cannot adjust the gain. understandable as it is software but with external mixer cue (as recommended by xone) i cannot seem to find individual gain controls, where can they be enabled?

when i get the DVS, would i be able to use my mixers gain control for the tracks?

[RoJeC]

amazon.com and www.soundservice.de for vinyl.....

If you use the 'external mixer' options Cross will send out at 'line level' as this is default input for your mixer, just as any other device would.

One of the analysis features is leveling the volume of tracks. If you have tracks that are really 'off' you can adjust the track gain. You can use the info node or make the field visible in the grid.

[Playrok]

thanks for your reply,
all of the vinyl on soundservice seem to be out of stock, and amazon sells it too expensive and only promises to deliver in january.
any retailers in uk that sell it?

in regards to the track gain, i have checked traktor and it seems when you use ecternal mixer it allows you to adjust the gain, or the signal sent to the mixers channel independently, is that not the case in Cross then?

[Playrok]

also, with DVS mode, would i be able to use the gain on my mixer? or it would work the same way?

[RoJeC]

Please register your license in your user profile. This will open the download section so you can upgrade to the latest version 3.3.11. Just in case you had to start with a previous version.

I don't know the xone setup but the external mixer mode is supposed to deliver line level so your mixer can use this to reduce to the wanted level. This is how any audio device communicates until the amplifier adds power for the speakers.

So not sure what you want to do or why you would need it. Could you try to explain this so we might be able to help you out.

[Playrok]

I have registered the software, but when i was downloading the software, it was from mixvibes website so i guess it was up to date.

To explain a bit more, the way it works (so i understood) is if i use the soundcard it uses the third channel from inside that is also routed into the mixers ½ channels. Mixer only has gain for channels ½ but not this "3rd" one which is coming from the computer. What i am trying to say is - on a two fader mixer i can have 6 inputs - 2 phono 2 line 2 computer inputs. I cannot control gain for the computer, i can only control line and phono inputs. Therefore for me to adjust gain i need to do it on the computer unfortunately, however when i use the external mixer cue mode recommended by xone, the gain on the software is changed to effects.
I was wondering if the DVS option would do the same, as it is still using the same soundcard. When i lower the gain on a turntable with control vinyl, does that affect the gain of the track on Cross?

[RoJeC]

Your posts don't show a software badge so your registration wasn't successful. If you entered your licence key in your user profile than the credentials weren't automatically adjusted. You can send a PM message to team@mixvibes to have this fixed. (reentering will not help you)

Meanwhile please check the about for the version so we can be sure you have the latest version.

Still not sure why you want the gain...
In External mixer mode(s) the level is Line, providing you have your 'Main' volume full open. At your mixer you adjust this volume to a lower level (mixing). That's the only way it should work. The output of your mixer should not be a higher level yhan Line as this may (will) destroy the input of your receiving device (amp/recorder/..).
It's the technical standard for decades...

Your analogue inputs allow for gain as analogue signals may loose power. So you can adjust the level to line. In case of phono amplify to line.

If you do not get the volume you want, the only thing you can do is increase your amp/speaker capacity.

In Cross the analysis algorithm normalizes the track volumes to Line level. Though usually good, there are some conditions in a track that make it to low (like some silence in track). You can adjust this for those tracks. The Info node at the right can be used, or if you have multiple tracks, right click on the header of the collection grid and make the Gain visible to be able to adjust. Your change will be saved permanantly.

Hope this clearifies a little more and may help to express what the issue is you have with the gain.

When using DVS you send the DVS signal to Cross, which is a 1300hz sinus stereo sound. If you reduce volume the signal will be less clear... so will have a negative result...