I am thinking of purchasing but need some tech answers

[Aaron David Lee]

Sorry if this is in wrong spot. I own the old Mixvibes pro and was gutted when support stopped so moved to Traktor, now that Cross has Soundcloud I am thinking about purchasing, but my demo makes crazy buffer repeating sounds when I hold the platter on my VCI-380, and couldn't find answers with google, so my questions are-

Is scratching possible with my Vestax controller? and if so is scratching Soundcloud tracks possible? can my platter LEDS show track possition, and if so does it stay in the same spot or drift like old Mixvibes pro did?

If all is good will purchase within the week.

Thank you for your time.

[DJ Vintage]

I thought the demo version didn't support any controllers?

[RoJeC]

Cross Free: Limited functions. Unlimited period.

Cross Demo : (Almost) all functions, limited period.

Your settings can be like (db values may vary; start at 0). Don't think there is a limitation regarding use of input. Unless you're overdue with the demo... My demo period is over so can't do the testing...

Default input

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select in deck

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DVS settings

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For the use of DVS it is important to Mute the inputs in the settings of the soundcard. Don't have this type, but pretty sure the tool can be downloaded from the downloads section even when not yet registered properly.

[Aaron David Lee]

Thank you for your great reply RoJeC, yet maybe I was not precise enough explaining my problem. I want to use the MIDI encoder jog wheels on my vci380 for scratching. The wheels automatically worked when firing up Cross, yet they create crazy jitter sounds rather than scratching sounds. It seems weird to me that the iPad app when moving a finger on the screen sounds better than the full program with a quality MIDI controller. Peace bro.

Could someone from Mixvibes please respond, I am a mixvibes pro customer wanting to pay more money for your recent offering, and this forum is the place I was led to for tech questions.

I need to know if jogs work well for scratching, if the cue position stays in place, or drifts, any MIDI latency problems, and if Cross for Mac can output a 0-127 CC platter LED signal.

If I have missed so ething, and there is another place I should be asking these questions, please point me inthe right direction.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

[RoJeC]

MIDI has no latency.
Any latency is merely caused by soundcard.
Cross is capable of running 1ms latency (I've 1.1ms at my Vestax with old PC).

Cue as well as locators(upto 8 points and loops) are saved with the track info.

Not sure which your sound problem on scratch is. You could try switching to CD mode and see if that's what you're looking for > When hovering over a deck you can switch by clicking the tiny button V <> CD.

There is a seperate forum on MIDI. Only accessible after registering. MIDI OUT is send by Cross.

[TinouCAS]

Hi,

Cross has a mapping built-in for the VCI-380. I haven't test it recently but it should work well for scratching. If not, post your issues here so we can fix it.
Scratching Soundcloud tracks is the same as for local tracks, no limitation once the track is loaded.
About the LED platter signal: I don't recall any work on it. I don't think it'll work but I might be wrong.

@RoJeC: there is such a thing as MIDI latency. It works differently than the audio latency, as MIDI input isn't stuffed in a fixed size buffer before being read (as for audio, the other way around). For MIDI, it is caused by how quickly MIDI input can be digested by an app and result into commands. It isn't measurable easily. Some work has been done on the subject not long ago. As such, it has greatly improved with the Cross 3.3.0 update.

[FigDJ]

I need to know if jogs work well for scratching, if the cue position stays in place, or drifts, any MIDI latency problems, and if Cross for Mac can output a 0-127 CC platter LED signal.

Just my two cents. The is no 0-127 CC signal output from the platter. In the past i had asked if this output could be made available as well as a 0-127 CC signal output for the beat circle/clock but have not seen anything done in this regard.

[Aaron David Lee]

Much appreciate the response guys. I here is a link to a video of my concern, hopefully can be fixed.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezp2wdmv7mvfw ... 0.mp4?dl=0

[TinouCAS]

Hi,

From the sound of your video, your decks are in "CD" mode. For scratching you need to set them to vinyl ("V") mode.

As RoJeC explained, there is a button to toggle just that in the bottom corner of each player's waveform. It's only visible when the mouse hovers the waveform.

[Aaron David Lee]

Thanks, Problem solved after pressing the cd/vinyl button about 50 times, it changed. I think the problem may be that the stock VCI380 MIDI map has a bug that held the button in cd mode even when the controller is turned off. Thanks for all the help guys.

vid of cd/vinyl button not working

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkg1tol8s9c7i ... 8.mp4?dl=0

but all good, if it is just a MIDI thing I will be able to fix when i purchase full version today.

thanks again guys.