Help needed queuing tracks through headphones

[Iain_baloo]

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Hi all,

Know this question comes up a fair bit - I've tried to read posts and apply replies but still am not able to listen to a queuing track through headphones on mixvibes.

I have a gemini first mix usb controller for a PC - my mixvibes serial should be registered under my details.

I was actually able to get the headphones queuing on virtual DJ, but not mixvibes, so I know it is possible! I've also tried ASIO4ALL and have attached screenshots of my settings below. these might not even be close but are just what I last tried.

Absolute novice here so as little jargon as poss please! appreciate any help you can give me. cheers

[daniel clark]

first thing i see is that you have the sc in default mode in you win sound set up ,, need to put the installed sc on computer as default ,, software cant use it because its being used by the o s , .

whats the reason for having external mixer selected in Cross sound set up

[Iain_baloo]

Hey thanks for the reply. Sorry to ask you to spell this out! On my PC sound settings, there are 2 options for my soundcard (IDT High Definition Audio Codec) - either 'Speakers and Headphones' and 'Communications headphones' - so which one shall I put as default?

In terms of the Cross sound set up - I previously tried what seemed like every combination whilst set to 'dual audio', so if I move back to this where should I go from there?

Additionally, if I have ASIO now downloaded should I have this set under sound preferences on mixvibes? On the drop down menu there are other options - again I tried a combination of these before downloading ASIO.

[RoJeC]

ASIO drivers usually have lowest latency. Native ASIO drivers of sc are usually better than general like ASIO4ALL. Asio4all however can combine directsound drivers; not asio drivers.

From what I can see your Gemini has master and headphone output while running gemini asio driver.
You need Dual stereo to for splitting master/cue both in stereo (and having the headphone in the mixer section).

The Cross fader and deck faders controls determine level that goes to master volume, going to master out.

For Cue: in the mixer section enable headphone button per deck. When deck active the volume of Cue knob fader (right top) determines volume. The 'mix' knob fader next to it determines the amount of Mastervolume that also goes to headphone.

If you want to use your PC sc, it may be a little more complicated to know what is feasible. Not so much for generic setup, but it might be depending on the routing available. You have to select 2 stereo channels in ASIO4ALL. In the properties of your sc there might be an option to use the outputs seperate (like back and front being seperate).

Hope this clearifies a little more. If not, please let's know. As it's getting closer to what you want try to be descriptive as to what you want and what actually happens (e.g. soundwise).

[Iain_baloo]

Hi Rojec, thanks very much for your input and clarity.

So firstly I think you've managed to clear up one thing for me - I've been working under the assumption that since my usb decks have an sc in, I needed to use that for the headphones and route the master through my laptop speakers.

I just gave this another go and I will try to explain what happened. I played track a and track b simultaneously with the Cross fader in the middle, obviously hearing both out the master. I then hit the headphones button on track b and moved the slider towards track A. What I assumed I'd hear was track A out of the master with track b, or a mix of track a and b, in the headphones? This is what i'm after so any advice would be great. What i actually heard was still a mix of track a and be in both master and headphones...

Hopefully this is just me being an amateur and not a hardware issue as I first thought.

However since doing this I have since unable been able to play AND track through master OR headphones! The crossdj programme says the track is playing but no sound is coming out either channel, despite making alterations to the Cross fader/ volume controls etc! Is this a bug issue?

[daniel clark]

in the software gui is a tab for display menue ,, go to help/manual and look at the information for sc set ups and audio config ,, its a little bit of info and will help you understand something

[daniel clark]

in you second screen shot ,,audio config of Cross ,, you have gemni asio selected ....good ,, you have out puts 1/2 and 3/4 ,,good ,,
you have external mixer selected ,, have you tried internal mixer option ,, and again the of why external mixer selected ,
in your lats screen shot of your win audio panel you have the gemni sc set as default sc ,, why and have you tried to set the computers installed sc as default ...
last in the gui there is a knob for cue/master /mix ,,this knob should be fully counter clockwise ,,
also any corrosponding control on the controller should be set similiar
the manuals of the controller and Cross should help you get this situtatted ,

[Iain_baloo]

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Ok thanks guys I think we're getting somewhere now! So I'm fairly sure this isnt a hardware problem and that I just need a better understanding of how to use the cue/mix/master volume settings.

So I've attached a shot of the volume settings. Have reduced cue volume to zero as instructed (this should mean that none of the cue track volume goes to master right?), I've kept master on so that there is volume coming out of the master, obvs, what should I be doing with the mix volume?

Also something to highlight, my gemini set hardly works with Cross DJ; the controls only affect what is on the screen and happening to the tracks around 1/4 of the times I start the software. In fact, when the controls are working and corresponding to the stuff on screen, im not able to get nay sound out of either output. is this a common thing?

[daniel clark]

who instructed you to turn cue down to zero ,, ,,turn the middle knob fully clockwise ,, turn cue to halfway point ,press play on track b and shift Cross fader to track a also pressing play

knods labeled
cue =cue volume
mix=monitor/pre fade listining fully conter clockwise ,,, master fully clock wise , this knob is like a fader to be able to listen to the master out and you pfl at same time on your headphones
master = master volume out ,

no try this in dual stero selected in audio panel

all of this info is in the manual
http://www.mixvibes.com/sites/default/f ... manual.pdf

what controller are you using and what MIDI mapping is selected ,,
also use the gui to control thease settings to eliminate the controller from giving wrong actions

[Iain_baloo]

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The saga continues...

Thanks for your help on getting me this far. I was able to start mixing, but a number of things forced a hiatus - My Windows imploded and I had to restore my compute. Having reinstalled Cross, I was pretty devastated to find that the cue and mix volume controls, which you pointed out that I needed in the answers above, have now ENTIRELY DISAPPEARED.

See screenshot i've attached. Any idea on this? I am running Cross 2.6, - have tried to update to 3.3 but it wont let me (despite me entering my serial number!!)

Any ideas? Sorry if I am yet again missing something incredibly obvious