Beatgrid Does Not Work Correctly

[Diskized]

Hello all!

I just bought Cross DJ about a week ago and so far I think its a cool program! I am a former Torq DJ user but have since switched over due to Avid discontinuing the product. I am very used to the Torq beatgrid and wave form so switching to Cross has been a lil tricky. Lately, I have been loading up songs on Cross and they are analyzed just fine. Once analyzing is done, the beatgrids seem all off time or the downbeat is in the wrong spot. I have tested this with many songs and it has not gotten a single song correct yet. I know I can edit the beatgrids but that would be a pain in the ass if I had to do that for every song! Currently, I am going to try a workaround with Rekordbox and just use the beatgrid info from there. If someone could help me figure out what is wrong that would be great! Let me know if you need more information.

Diskized

[Diskized]

So I am still having problems with the beatgrid. I have tried changing every setting I can to make it so songs with actually have a correct analysis. If someone could help that would be fantastic

[FigDJ]

So I am still having problems with the beatgrid. I have tried changing every setting I can to make it so songs with actually have a correct analysis. If someone could help that would be fantastic

What version of Cross are you using?

[Diskized]

Currently using the latest version, Cross 3.1.

[RoJeC]

Still somewhat guessing as to what you have going on. Beatgriding generally is supposed to work, unless your tracks are old days and have drifting beats.

Could it be that the gridding is correct, but you are having Quant and/or Snap at values that you do don't want?
Or do you see the grid being wrong positioned?

[FigDJ]

RoJec is right on point about oldies type of music.

I asked the question about the version because i ran into incompatability of the analysis from version 2.x to 3.x.

Did you analyzed your files using and older version and then upgraded to 3.1 or did you installed and older version, updated the software and then analyzed your files?

[Diskized]

I mostly DJ all the sub genres of house so no oldies sort of stuff usually. I tried analyzing the files with quant and snap on and off. I had Cross DJ free (3.0.1) for a short time but I only analyzed 3 songs on that. Since I am a former Torq DJ user I will use their software to give an example of whats going on: http://postimg.org/image/n6soyli89/

As you can see in the picture, the song has the downbeat right at the drop and then every subsequent 4th beat has another "downbeat". Like I said before most of my songs are 4 on the floor based.

Here is a picture of Cross: http://postimg.org/image/d23vt3lil/

In this picture, the playhead is right on the downbeat of the song. Cross instead put the downbeat a few measures behind the playhead (I am zoomed in so you cannot see it).

If you need more information I will be glad to provide it.

[RoJeC]

Stil odd.
To avoid going in the wrong direction:
Snap when enabled will put your locator/ loop/ cue mark r sample to the nearest beat(s).
Quantize will make sure that a playing track will stay in beat when a jump/move action takes place. (e.g. locator, search, jump, sample).

The beatgrid itself is not influenced by quant or snap values.

Do you think that the beat is actually of (so also a beat at the end) or is the marker of only (very hard to determine....
I checked an other track of this (not same remix) and noticed it to be spot on, except for a small part in the middle where the beat is part of the total volume.

It might be worthwhile making some tracks available for de the devteam, so they can check out if they can duplicate it.

[Diskized]

Yeah im still not very sure what is going on. Even when I go in to add a downbeat, the marker (downbeat) will still be behind where I have the playhead (this is with Snap and Quantize off). The only time I have actually had success with the beatgrid is by going into the edit and hitting remove beatgrid and then hitting add beatgrid. Only then has the beatgrid lined up with the song.

Thanks again for helping with the very strange issue.

[Diskized]

So I took a long break from DJing in general and have now returned to practice. I still cannot find a single track that will analyze the beatgrid correctly. Is there a new version coming out soon or is there an older version that I should try out?