[resolved] beat drifting and beatgrid from 2.6 to 3.0

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[resolved] beat drifting and beatgrid from 2.6 to 3.0

Postby FigDJ on 02 Feb 2014, 16:59

I have in my collection many older tracks from the 70's and early 80's.

Music production technology back then did not use drum machines that provided a steady beat and even some modern music has in track tempo changes. With that time of music it is necessary to use multiple beatgrids that account for the variations.

2.6 and 3.0 both have the same beatgrid capabilities and I am trying to move from 2.6 to 3.0.

Any track in 2.6 will need to have peak analysis to add color information in 3.0.

if a track has multiple beatbrids in 2.6. When you load in 3.0 and perform a peak analysis. All the multiple beatgrid markers are lost and the beatgrid itself is back to square one.

This means that for music that has tempo drifts (most 70's and early 80's as well as some modern music) all beatgrid will have to be re-done. Hundreds of hours spent beatgriding thousands of track are now lost in order to add the color information for 3.0 as the multiple beatgrid information is not preserved from 2.6 to 3.0.

Anything the Mixvibes team can do to preserve this information going from 2.6 to 3.0 would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: beat drifting and beatgrid from 2.6 to 3.0

Postby djmagicmoments on 02 Feb 2014, 19:45

erased... :rolleyes:
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Re: beat drifting and beatgrid from 2.6 to 3.0

Postby FigDJ on 02 Feb 2014, 20:05

djmagicmoments wrote:Beatgrids are turning out to be a huge issue for me as well. ALL of my tracks start 1-2-3 beats into the song. None of them cue at the beginning of the track. 50k tracks, all cued wrong.

This should be priority ONE, especially since the software is becoming HUGELY popular right now.


I feel your pain. re beatgriding my tracks is going to take a great deal of time. It is as if I was starting over with a new DJ software.

I know the MIxvibes team is listening and I am confident they will come with a solution that for our concerns.
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Re: beat drifting and beatgrid from 2.6 to 3.0

Postby sylMV on 02 Feb 2014, 23:49

djmagicmoments wrote:Beatgrids are turning out to be a huge issue for me as well. ALL of my tracks start 1-2-3 beats into the song. None of them cue at the beginning of the track. 50k tracks, all cued wrong.

This should be priority ONE, especially since the software is becoming HUGELY popular right now.


Please stay in your topic and do not pollute others with off-topic posts. Thank you.
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Re: beat drifting and beatgrid from 2.6 to 3.0

Postby sylMV on 02 Feb 2014, 23:50

FigDJ wrote:I have in my collection many older tracks from the 70's and early 80's.

Music production technology back then did not use drum machines that provided a steady beat and even some modern music has in track tempo changes. With that time of music it is necessary to use multiple beatgrids that account for the variations.

2.6 and 3.0 both have the same beatgrid capabilities and I am trying to move from 2.6 to 3.0.

Any track in 2.6 will need to have peak analysis to add color information in 3.0.

if a track has multiple beatbrids in 2.6. When you load in 3.0 and perform a peak analysis. All the multiple beatgrid markers are lost and the beatgrid itself is back to square one.

This means that for music that has tempo drifts (most 70's and early 80's as well as some modern music) all beatgrid will have to be re-done. Hundreds of hours spent beatgriding thousands of track are now lost in order to add the color information for 3.0 as the multiple beatgrid information is not preserved from 2.6 to 3.0.

Anything the MixVibes team can do to preserve this information going from 2.6 to 3.0 would be greatly appreciated.


Really strange, Cross 3.0 do no require beatgrids to be re-analyzed.
In 2.6, had you changed the directory where analysis files are stored?

In any case, an issue has been reported when updating to 3.0, some settings are not correctly reloaded.
Let's check Cross is searching the right directory.

Open 2.6, and check the "peaks directory" shown in the general preferences
Then open 3.0, and check if it's the same.
If not, either change it in 3.0 or copy-paste the content of 2.6's directory into 3.0's.
Let me know :)

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Re: beat drifting and beatgrid from 2.6 to 3.0

Postby FigDJ on 03 Feb 2014, 01:36

sylMV wrote:Really strange, Cross 3.0 do no require beatgrids to be re-analyzed.
In 2.6, had you changed the directory where analysis files are stored?

In any case, an issue has been reported when updating to 3.0, some settings are not correctly reloaded.
Let's check Cross is searching the right directory.

Open 2.6, and check the "peaks directory" shown in the general preferences
Then open 3.0, and check if it's the same.
If not, either change it in 3.0 or copy-paste the content of 2.6's directory into 3.0's.
Let me know :)

Cheers,


Thank you and my apologies. After your comment I re-tested and re-traced my steps.

My mistake was that
I analyzed some files in 2.6
copied the peak file to 3.0

I then went back to 2.6 and added some additional beatgrids to account for tempo drift and

My mistake here

Forgot to copy the peak file again to 3.0 so when I opened in 3.0 I mistakenly thought my markers were gone.

My mistake this is a non-issue.

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Re: beat drifting and beatgrid from 2.6 to 3.0

Postby sylMV on 03 Feb 2014, 11:49

Glad to know it ;)
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