2.5 Woes

[Schnibs]

So im always loathed to update mixvibes as i always run into problems usually after just getting everything set up nice.
I kept putting off updating to 2.5 but the key detect drew me in.
And ive had a night of frustration and was hoping someone on here could help.

My big problem is the way sync now works, my set up is simply 2 turntables (DVS) with a basic controller.
I had mapped to a button the "sync player a with player b" feature and vice versa to another button. Did what it said, i could sync one player with the other with one button press.

Now that doesn't seem to be in mapping, i have "sync with master" or "match bpm with master" etc
To start with i couldnt even work out which deck was the master, it seems the only way i can view master is by putting it in 4 player view. Which i don't need and takes up most of the screen.
I also now have to map spare controller buttons (that i dont have) to assign a deck to be master, to then sync the other deck to it.

After working out which deck is actually the master i gave it a whirl but it just doesnt work for me, if i hit sync it does sync the beat but the bpm is always off so it quickly looses beat lock.
If i keep hitting sync the bpm jumps around but its never close enough to hold lock
Before with just the sync button it would match the bpm very accuratly and lock the beats. now it can't seem to match the bpm at all even if i use the mapped (sync bpm to master) only it doesn;t get it right.



And a last niggle, i browse songs throught the iTunes playlist and it doesn't seem to display the keys at all. Only untill i load a song can i see it above the player. I can see it displays keys if you browse via collections or something. But i never have used anything but iTunes.
Kinda pointless if i have to load a song just to view what key it is.

I always seem to run into problems with mixvibes it gets so frustrating, any help would be appreciated.


Cheers

[P_Jean]

General Preferences of Cross ...
and You have your answer ... (sync link .... )

[Hannes]

You dont see the key in iTunes, cause iTunes has no key-feature.
But you can simply drag and drop your playlists to the left-side node and the key will be shown.

It's like editing a picture, you look at the original and wonder why there are no changes visible.

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[Schnibs]

General Preferences of Cross ...
and You have your answer ... (sync link .... )

Ok so, been having a play to try and work out what this does and im getting closer.

With sync link enabled and have a track playing in deck A, cue up track B and then hit Sync it hold the sync well But the Relative mode (for DVS) has a warning symbol on and i loose control of that deck B.
What i mean is pulling the record back becomes unresponsives, it just seems to stop and start the audio rather than having actual vinyl control.
Lets say im in a mix and want to end it with a spin back cut i can't if its synced.

Anyway the main problem i face is deck A is master, deck B is also playing and synced. With the mix finished if i lift the needle of deck A it shifts master to deck B (which is what i want) BUT the pitch on Deck B when it shifts to master drops a few BPM everytime.
If i mix to deck B and then uncheck sync i can lift the needle of Deck A and B holds its BPM but i loose the master switching to Deck B so i have to manually make Deck B Master

I still think this was simpler when one button synced beat and bpm with one press to Deck A or vice versa for DVS

[Schnibs]

You dont see the key in iTunes, cause iTunes has no key-feature.
But you can simply drag and drop your playlists to the left-side node and the key will be shown.

It's like editing a picture, you look at the original and wonder why there are no changes visible.

This worked perfectly, cheers

[sylMV]

I still think this was simpler when one button synced beat and bpm with one press to Deck A or vice versa for DVS

If Sync Link is unchecked, you have this behavior.

[Schnibs]

I still think this was simpler when one button synced beat and bpm with one press to Deck A or vice versa for DVS

If Sync Link is unchecked, you have this behavior.

See original post.

It doesn't though on my set up, hitting sync locks the bars and attempts to sync the bpm but fails, using mixvibes 2.3 pressing sync the bpm is spot on with one press. In 2.5 lets say Deck A is 175 bpm pressing sync on Deck B will put it to 176.3 or something randomly close so it doesn't stay in sync very long, press it again it jumps to 173.7bpm

Tbh when i was using sync link and holding sync i could see the bpm continuously rolling up and down to compensate and keep it in sync.
I just tried not using sync and mapping "set bpm to master" only and its the same.

What am i missing thats making it so inacurate

[sylMV]

I guess it's only due to vinyl speed variations...
I don't really know why it should have become more sensitive than previously...
Are you always keeping your TTs quartz-locked?

[Schnibs]

I guess it's only due to vinyl speed variations...
I don't really know why it should have become more sensitive than previously...
Are you always keeping your TTs quartz-locked?

Yeah there locked, i can launch 2.3 and its fine. Close it and launch 2.5 and the bpms never right

[sylMV]

Yeah there locked, i can launch 2.3 and its fine. Close it and launch 2.5 and the bpms never right

Ok, thanx for the answer.

Could you have the following test for me ?
In Cross 2.3, change the pitch of the target TT (quartz disabled) and check if it's fine or not.