Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

   Discuss technical issues with the community. Mixvibes staff provides no support on this board.
Forum rules
Click here to join MIxvibes on DISCORD https://discord.gg/gMdQJ2cJqa

Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby nate1950 on 25 Dec 2012, 11:41

Any chance I can receive the official Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console? The MIDI assign function can only do so much considering you can't get you LEDs lit and the jog wheel mapping is ridiculously difficult, master volume etc can't be recognized by the software. I mean come on guys this is a great console. Why isn't it supported officially by the team. The DDJ Ergo is and it's not half as good as the DDJ-S1.
User avatar
nate1950
 
Posts: 13
Joined: 30 Nov 2011, 20:22


Re: Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby UncleVibes on 25 Dec 2012, 11:43

When we will have this Controller in hands in our booth... Then yes we can do an official mapping.
ddj-S1.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
UncleVibes
 
Posts: 10254
Joined: 22 Sep 2003, 14:36


Re: Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby nate1950 on 25 Dec 2012, 11:47

Wow...the controller has been out for over a year now....heck the DDJ-SX is already available...please try to catch up.
User avatar
nate1950
 
Posts: 13
Joined: 30 Nov 2011, 20:22


Re: Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby UncleVibes on 25 Dec 2012, 11:50

master volume etc can't be recognized by the software.
If the control button for this function is analog then... how do you want to control it by MIDI? But I don't know yet I never had in hands this controller. If it's MIDI then it must work.
UncleVibes
 
Posts: 10254
Joined: 22 Sep 2003, 14:36


Re: Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby nate1950 on 25 Dec 2012, 11:56

Hey the master level is not really an issue....mapping the jog wheels is way to complicated... everything else works though....despite no LEDs which would also be cool if the option existed in the MIDI assignment utility...lol
User avatar
nate1950
 
Posts: 13
Joined: 30 Nov 2011, 20:22


Re: Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby UncleVibes on 25 Dec 2012, 12:03

Hey the master level is not really an issue....mapping the jog wheels is way to complicated... everything else works though....despite no LEDs which would also be cool if the option existed in the MIDI assignment utility...lol


We all agree on that point and push the developpers to do a better MIDI Learn function, including all inputs (done) and all outputs (seems to be much harder)
I ask tomorrow if we can help you further.
UncleVibes
 
Posts: 10254
Joined: 22 Sep 2003, 14:36


Re: Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby nate1950 on 25 Dec 2012, 12:09

Thanks man do hope you get a positive response.
User avatar
nate1950
 
Posts: 13
Joined: 30 Nov 2011, 20:22


Re: Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby UncleVibes on 25 Dec 2012, 12:10

We will have in January a DDJ-SX on test and doing an official mapping for it. I have no idea if it will be compatible with the DDJ-S1
UncleVibes
 
Posts: 10254
Joined: 22 Sep 2003, 14:36


Re: Mapping for Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI console

Postby MusicMeister on 26 Dec 2012, 02:35

It's impossible to map every controller that comes out. The Cross/Mixvibes people have done a pretty decent job of hitting the most popular ones that aren't put out by a company that does their own software (Native Instruments and M-Audio specifically). Keeping in mind that these controllers also represent a very small portion of the controller market as a whole.

That aside, there isn't any standard mapping, and some hardware companies even change from controller to controller. For example, you'd think that Vestax would have a standard for their crossfader, channel faders, pitch and the other key controls from controller to controller - they don't. Each one is different. Which means a mapping for one doesn't work for anything else.

Fortunately, they tend to stick to one process for the jog wheels, but even that isn't 100%.

As for standards, there isn't one. Most use a Note on/off for their LED's but Denon does it completely backwards sending state and then light.

And text? Don't even get me started!

And while you can 'guess' at the MIDI values using a MIDI map, until you get a controller in your hands you can't actually test the mapping - which means it's not practical to release and 'hope for the best'. Especially if it's going to be an 'official' mapping.

Just some of the reasons why they can't map everything.... In the meantime, I have a friend that may be sending me his Hercules controller to map. He'll cover shipping both ways, and I figure a week turn around. I'll map the controller for Cross (if it's not already), Torq, and Traktor (which is what he's wanting). :)

What I'm saying is if you can't do it yourself, see if you can loan your controller to someone else who can. If they know what they're doing and have the time, a few days should get the mapping done and tested pretty well.
User avatar
MusicMeister
 
Posts: 331
Joined: 06 Dec 2012, 03:49
Location: Pensacola, Florida



Return to Community Support




Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 31 guests

Board index

 
 
   
 
© 2014 Mixvibes