Second sound card is unusable?(solved)

[krapotkin]

You can use any number of sound cards in Windows OR on the Mac.

Of course I know. More to say - I ALWAYS use both my sc. And please stop talk about ASIO4ALL - it only do another interface to my existing WDM devices, and can't couple them into one. We are talking exactly about this.

Both of my sc is not Zero Latency Device. This is normal for me.
Both of them have only one couple of outputs.
And no, I never have any remarkable lags or sound artefacts.
Except for DJing and music I have additional skills - I'm a professional programmer and I don't see any problem to give ability to use different devices simultaneously.
Maybe my situation is more simple than common way. I just never beatmix my salsa or party tracks. It's not the way this kind of music does. And I only need a way to monitor next track, select cue point etc. It doesn't need a millisecond sync. It doesn't need sync at all

If we talk about beatmixing - for avoiding hypotetic sync problem the MixMeister SW has my most like paradigm.
They have different cursors for master sound and monitor sound. While one composition playing, I have a plenty of time to make a precise mix between any other compositions from my playlist. And all pieces I work play in one headphones channel and don't need HW channel sync.

[Hannes]

Again: why would you want to switch soundcards if you could aggregate them and use the cue functions in the software?
That makes no sense at all!

Asio gives you better latency, sound and less potential problems as wdm would do.

[daniel clark]

Now I bought CrossDJ for the great Video DJ ability, but has been very disappointed that I cannot utilize it by usual way.

a plug inadded to the program to add video features

[daniel clark]

Of course I know. More to say - I ALWAYS use both my sc. And please stop talk about ASIO4ALL - it only do another interface to my existing WDM devices, and can't couple them into one. We are talking exactly about this.

a plug in to create a multi channel sc for use by Cross

Both of my sc is not Zero Latency Device. This is normal for me.
Both of them have only one couple of outputs.
And no, I never have any remarkable lags or sound artefacts.
Except for DJing and music I have additional skills - I'm a professional programmer and I don't see any problem to give ability to use different devices simultaneously.
Maybe my situation is more simple than common way. I just never beatmix my salsa or party tracks. It's not the way this kind of music does. And I only need a way to monitor next track, select cue point etc. It doesn't need a millisecond sync. It doesn't need sync at all
well asio4all will pose no problem to your style of mixing

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the best solution will be to get a true multi channel sc to achieve what you want ,,, untill ,and in the mean time asio4all will allow you to use your existing set up

again welcome to mixvibes

[daniel clark]

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Win7x64 at Notebook 17" Samsung R780
2xIntel i3-M310 @ 2.4 GHz
4 Gb RAM Video AMD HD5000 mobile
Internal SC - Realtek HD Audio
External SC - Roland's EDIROL UA-1X USB audio interface.
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[MusicMeister]

As for the workflow in MixMeister, that's a DAW style workflow and isn't typical of most other DJ applications. If you like that workflow and want video there is a MixMeister Fusion+Video available. The workflow in Cross is more in keeping with a traditional DJ workflow.

As for the whole soundcard thing, maybe I just don't understand what you're trying to do.

Are you wanting to have the main come out one sound card and your headphones coming out a second? If so, then ASIO4All or Aggregate Audio will let you do that.

ASIO4ALL 'collects' the devices into a single new device. You specify which card is what channel inside ASIO4All and then within the DJ software you specify ASIO4All as the output and select the channels associated with the various cards. Aggregate Audio works in much the same way. You specify the devices that are a part of it, and then select aggregate audio as the output device and select the predefined channels.

Yes, ASIO4All only works with WDM devices, but with the exception of Serato hardware, most soundcards have WDM drivers available.

BTW, MixMeister has the option to use WDM drivers or ASIO within the software. Most DJ software does NOT give you that option. They require you to use ASIO to avoid latency and other issues when using separate channels for each of the two channels and cueing in hardware or when timecode vinyl is being used and latency is a MAJOR factor.

No, not everyone NEEDS that sort of low latency audio, but it's readily available with most professional sound cards.

[krapotkin]

EDIROL UA-1X

if read more accurately, "1 pair of stereo IN/OUT interface"
it has exactly 1 couple of input and 1 couple output RCA connectors
http://www.studio6.ru/1/usb.jpg
Therefore, it is still one-channel.

OK. I GAVE UP )) I use ASIO4ALL. Thanks for all who spent time trying to move me to another rails. I just asked for an option which other ones have. If it can be only this way, let it be.

So, am I on right way now? :
http://www.studio6.ru/1/pnl.png
But I still have a problem
http://www.studio6.ru/1/cue.png
Crossfader is open for deck A and closed for B.
I CAN listen the previews in very right of screen.
But if I move the "soundwave" at deck B I CAN'T hear any sound as I expected. What does "cue channel" mean in this manner?
I can't hear cue point, only see.
Maybe I didn't check something?

P.S. I bought this program urgently needing to play at the party this evening. I did it. Anyway, it was perfect. I did it before using some creativity and free video players ))

[MusicMeister]

Yes, the Edirol/Roland sound card you have is only a single channel card.

Yes, you are on the right path with the audio.

As for the other issue, I'm guessing you have your headphones plugged into the headphone jack on the Edirol/Roland USB Soundcard, correct?

If not, that's where they should be.

That output is enabled when you turn on the PFL for that channel.

[daniel clark]

the headphone icon in the gui is how you activate the monitor channel ,,,there is one on each deck ,,
have you looked at the manual any,,a wealth of info as to set up and running the software,
we will help you ,but it will be slow,,
you have a Vfx software badge is that for the software only or did you get the controller also

you are running the Cross video plug in ,,have to look at this since i havent played with this yet

[Jim B]

@Dan

You get a Vfx software icon when you enter the Video Plugin serial in your Profile....

That is why I have the icon