Macbook + U46MK2 + Cross 2.2

[skandal]

yes, but i wanted to avoid having +7 db gain in the Cross software. I preferred putting the input volume up of the sound config.

[christiankoopmann]

hmm okay. I have no mac and never run there Cross with ESI audio but when you open the controll panel is there on the top of the screen an extra menu? I hope you understand where I mean .

There must be an option menu to set some other options like latence and so on. Mybe the options are at the system controll center under audio settings -> ESI Asio Audio.

regards
Christian

[skandal]

before, i used the control panel of u46MK2 by mixvibes. there I had the option to set a certain latency.
but with the most recent version of the esi control panel, I don't have that option anymore.

[MusicMeister]

Ok, I'm new to this... but I think there's a little confusion.

The stuff showing on the INPUT is the time code. It won't impact the OUTPUT of the sound card. In other words, adjusting the volume on the INPUT may trash the signal (clipping) but it won't make the outputs louder (which it sounds like is what you want).


Are the channel volumes showing proper levels?

In other words is the final volume out the only issue?

or am I just looking at the wrong attachment?


And out of curiosity, what does the rest of the signal chain look like after the sound card? (What are you plugging into?)

[UncleVibes]

The stuff showing on the INPUT is the time code. It won't impact the OUTPUT of the sound card. In other words, adjusting the volume on the INPUT may trash the signal (clipping) but it won't make the outputs louder (which it sounds like is what you want).

+1

Check your audio options in Cross. There you can define latency. Check also your cables... Show a screenshot of these options.

[Support@MixVibes]

Try the other usb port, you certainly have usb issue with this port.
I am on a C2D also with a 10.6.8 and using the panels from MixVibes or from ESI both are working fine but I used an Imac.

On a side note a MB2.1 is below specs...

[skandal]

@Support@Mixvibes
I have a MAC OSX 10.6.8
Intel Core 2 Duo with 2 Ghz
2 GB RAM

MAC Minimum System requirements:
MAC OSX 10.6
Intel Core 2 Duo / 2.2 GHz or equivalent
2 GB RAM

So only the amount of processorspeed is a bit too low.
but shouldn't be a problem.

But I double check my usb ports. I don't think there's something wrong with it.

@ the others:

it's indeed a misconfusion. my inputlevels are low, but still 100%
my output level when recording from the mixer is about 75% (highest levels)
I can offcourse higher the output master volume of Cross.
With a previous version of Cross, I could define the input volume of the TC in Mixvibes/ESI panel. my TC gain was set to 0db and my signal was 100% with a good volume.
Now the chances done in the ESI config panel results in nothing.

When I reach home, I will taken screenshots of everything.
thanks

[MusicMeister]

I'm not real sure I fully understand what the issue is but hopefully this might help.

Input using timecode is tricky from a processing level. Here's why:

When you play vinyl you want a nice signal level to reduce the impact of noise (signal/noise ratio). But the minute you back spin and start scratching the signal level shoots up RADICALLY. What happens is if you have a great signal during straight playback, it clips the phono preamp and does nasty things to control when you start manipulating the vinyl. Keep in mind, this is with vinyl time code, not CD.

If you've ever used an M-Audio Conectiv to record vinyl you'll notice the volume levels are really low. The hardware itself was designed to handle the control signal and peaks caused from vinyl manipulation. Some applications do this in hardware, others in software. Either way, the circles you have look good - so the signal level should work just fine on the input from the CV.

However, if I understand you correctly the OUTPUT from the mixer is too low. That would be driven by the output from the sound card and the set up on the mixer itself, and to a lesser extent from the software itself.

Except for rare circumstances, there really shouldn't be any reason to run the gains past 0dB (unity). It's all about proper gain structure throughout the signal chain.

And to keep this in mind... there are actually 2 signal chains.

Turntable->Sound card->Computer (STOP)
Computer->Sound card->Mixer->Processing->Amp->Speakers (Stop)

Even if the computer and sound card are shared between the two chains they are still separate.

I look forward to seeing the screen shots... I hope we can work to get this issue resolved for you.

[skandal]

thanks for the reply. greatly appreciated.

so the input volume of the turntables may be small? as long as the signal is good.

here are some screens:

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this is how i set it up: I put the gain on 5-7db

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and it's ok to have it on 0db. Now I see that I have also input levels for my TC.

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[MusicMeister]

See how even though the signal size is smaller the quality is registered as HIGHER?

It's that quality % that you want as high as possible. Everything else is there to help you get there to adjust for issues - worn out needles, worn control vinyl, etc.

With the input side being done, do you still have an output problem from the software to the mixer?