[REQUEST]Key analysis in Cross browser like in Rekordbox

[Blackbrook]

- what do you prefer absolute key or relative key ?

@Support: Listen to propper music without key changes HAHA

[Support@MixVibes]

Thank you this is exactly where I wanted to be.

All those key analyser are not accurate enought to be trusted to found the real key of a track (absolute).
But as long as they're falling the same way to do the analyse, then they're good in relative mode.

To understand imagine that all your track are halfed or twiced by BPM. Even if the BPM is wrong, you could still autosync track at 260bpm or 65bpm while the true value is 130bpm.
But you couldn't autosync 65 or 130 with 260 or any other way without huge pitch change.

So my guess is that all of you prefer relative, as long as they go well together.

[KevMaverick]

I've found that the other programs I use are not 100% accurate - even if they get the key right, the bpm can sometimes be wrong. Usually it is quite noticeable, if your ears don't deceive you, so the correct bpm can be entered into the info for the track.

[Hannes]

Kev, do you hear keys?

How can you know they are correct?
can you tell a-minor from c-major?

[KevMaverick]

Kev, do you hear keys?

How can you know they are correct?
can you tell a-minor from c-major?

Ha Ha Ha! I wish!

I can however, tell when the bpm is incorrect.

One program I use - Mixmeister, realises that it doesn't always get it right, and has 2 options in the tag settings for a track: halve the bpm, or double it.

The point I'm making is that most existing programs only get about 60% of the bpm/key information right.

[daniel clark]

if you come from a musical background and have experience and knoweldge of reading music and listening for the keys of songs and music played then this is more familiar and you will see when the software is wrong,,,,
sane as bpm,,can tell that music is similar in bpm /tempo and use this info to aid you in your mixes,,
the software is just a aid in accomplishing this,,,so 100% accuracy is not obtainable and un nessaryjust wish for reliability and some standards met

[KevMaverick]

To be honest, I think that accurate bpm detection is MORE important. Most people will keep dancing if the music stays pretty much at the same tempo, but they won't really notice changes in key.

I've been doing this for longer than I ever expected, and have a good ear for bpm's - I was doing mixing before anyone even knew what bpm actually meant!

We only had vinyl, 2 decks, and our ears, and some of us got it right! I'm guessing that some of the mixes I did way back then wouldn't work now if we tried to do them using a computer!

With all the technology, there's no replacing a 'good ear for music'

[boc]

We only had vinyl, 2 decks, and our ears, and some of us got it right! I'm guessing that some of the mixes I did way back then wouldn't work now if we tried to do them using a computer!

With all the technology, there's no replacing a 'good ear for music'

well said, mate!

[Alexkidd]

just for the record an old article i remembered by seeing this post.

Key analysis feature would save me a lot of time and also would really upgrade my layering skills, provided it works fine.

but if not, i'm mixing just fine right now.

[Support@MixVibes]

It should be said that this test can only provide a look at the accuracy of each of these programs relative to each other, rather than an assessment of the overall accuracy. I was surprised at the number of incorrect readings for each program.