CR2.4.0 Preview or limiter not released on problem track

[RoJeC]

Hi. I do have a certain track (will mail to support) which I know is no good.
So deleting it solves my problem.
However I noticed that it causes a problem with Preview and/or the limiter that is unwanted:
When preview is activated (or active already) the trackvolume (bars) go to maximum. When preview is turned of it stay there for at least 10 to 20 seconds and then the left and right channel bars go down one by one after that.(e.g. first left then right).
The sound from the decks is meanwhile 'killed'. When turning Off the limiter the decks are audible again.
With limiter off the preview does not seem to provide any sound (no noise either).
When the limiter is ON again all sounds is killed again.

To get it 'back to normal' I change soundcard back and forth.

(the preview is set to start at appx 1/3 of the track)

[Support@MixVibes]

Very weird one !

[RoJeC]

The issue is still present in 2.6.0RC.

Could you maybe explain how the limiter is supposed to release after it kicked in (which it did for good reason)?
Is there a fixed delay/safety period and is it supposed to release per channel (l/r)

[sylMV]

Maybe you should stop using this buggy track, shoudn't you ?

By the way the limiter is very classic, there's a fixed release time. Probably your track is so buggy that it makes it crazy

Can you remain me the name of the file, so that I can't check if we still have it for testing?

[Activated Soundwave]

what I have noticed , I have limiter off, but I still get it behaving as if its limiting, and the gain is always sticking in relation to the channel LED on my Pioneer DDJSX, I move the gain and the level does not ajust a lot of the time and it also visually shows this, unless I turn my gain all the way down or up, maybe even a couple of times for it to start working as it should. overall I often see a delay in responding levels or them not responding, it can be compensated as I know its doing this, but it is vary strange considering I don't have limiter in use, I cant stand my sound being squashed obviously limiting will produce such behaviour one way or the other squashed or dragged up to meet with the auto gain.
This has been bugging me for some time, sure I created a post in the past about this, but it not in my mind I promise that, and I can not connect it to dodgy tracks, it is always more often than not evident. All I can say its like limiter is still active.

I will keep my eye on this, not a lot else I can say, except maybe its like auto gain settings are automatically working maybe, activating limiter still, I presumed the auto gain settings would only work in conjunction with the limiter being on, or would only pre-set the levels to 0db or something, And the limiter would only work when levels are pushed beyond, or maybe not enough, as its a limiter not just compression alone, I can only guess on all this.

[sylMV]

No, no, no...
There's no hidden behavior:

- Limiter on => limiter limits.
- Limiter "off" => limiter's bypassed

Autogain has by the way nothing to deal with limiter.
It's just a gain computed during analysis, trying to make all tracks have the same level, and applied at track load. It doesn't vary at all.

[discopex]

A track with dodgy stereo phase shift (error) would peak high while you wouldn't hear much of it since the channels (left+right) can phase each other out. Just a thought.

[Hannes]

A track with dodgy stereo phase shift (error) would peak high while you wouldn't hear much of it since the channels (left+right) can phase each other out. Just a thought.

easily tested: just listen to l/r alone and see if the single channels are louder than the stereo.

[Activated Soundwave]

Thanks guys,will look into this stuff, maybe its the led on my controller in relation to Cross also, as they seem less responsive than traktor, and maybe the gain has something to do with the pick up/takeover mode, worth a look as well as what you suggest now I no what to rule out also.

Thanks