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BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012, 18:06
by juice88
Hey!

I wanted to know if it is possible to save the BPM, that Cross analyzed, in the comment/tag of the Ogg Vorbis-Files. It takes time, to analyze them every time if the collection is not saved.

Thank you! :)

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012, 18:16
by Marxon
After analyzing your Tracks save your Collection.
If you later load this Collection again the BPM values should be loaded too.

Best regards
Marxon

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012, 18:18
by Marxon
Also make shure you have "save tag changes" activated in Cross settings.

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012, 19:00
by juice88
Thank You! :) I knew that already, that they stay if i save the collection.

But is it possible to save them directly in the ogg-file or in the playlist? :)

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012, 19:04
by Marxon
juice88 wrote:Thank You! :) I knew that already, that they stay if i save the collection.

But is it possible to save them directly in the ogg-file or in the playlist? :)


Unfortunately no.
FLAC uses the same Vorbis tag structure, but here you can read the whole story if you like:
viewtopic.php?f=358&t=25461&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=flac

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012, 21:25
by juice88
Mh okay :/ thank you! :)

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2012, 22:51
by MusicMeister
There is a lot of ambiguity with the tag structure in vorbis, and as a result of it using the same structure - FLAC.

It's unfortunate, but hopefully something can be figured out in the near future... It's just not an easy solution like ALAC/AAC or the ID3 tags in MP3 where there is a clearly defined standard for tagging.

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2012, 13:20
by juice88
MusicMeister wrote:There is a lot of ambiguity with the tag structure in vorbis, and as a result of it using the same structure - FLAC.

It's unfortunate, but hopefully something can be figured out in the near future... It's just not an easy solution like ALAC/AAC or the ID3 tags in MP3 where there is a clearly defined standard for tagging.


Hopefully! Thank U! :)

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2012, 17:08
by MusicMeister
Since I'm working with Mixed in Key (was using the new 5.5 release last night to tag some files), I noticed they tagged FLAC.

I know not all DJ's use MIK, but it's becoming more common to see people using Key as a function of their mixing.

That being said, what is the chance that the tagging used in MIK could be matched within Cross?

It's 'something' at least... a start.

I'll see if I can get some information on the tagging they use and share.

Re: BPM @ Ogg Vorbis Comment - Possible with Cross?

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2012, 22:37
by Blackbrook
good ears and cueing replace MIK ;) haha