lots of problems

[kram_snd]

I wasn't really sure where to post this thread, some of my problems seem like bugs.
I just downloaded the update 2 days ago, i was happy to read that the master tempo would be available in absolute mode. at first the update worked ok but things started to wrong. the install wizard froze while i was calibrating the decks and I had to re-start it. the track selection seems to lack response, I have to scratch the record back and forth a bit before it registers. these are problems i never had with my original DVS 7 (or 7.1)
The worst of all though, whilst playing a set the graphics froze up leaving the audio playing but with the waveforms staying still and the track titles of previous songs still being displayed.

Is 7.21 more graphics intensive?

And another thing, the little wheel graphic has been enlarged slightly (i'm guessing this was so that the newly added timecode position would fit in the middle of it) but it looks really bad, it looked a lot better of 7.1 where it neatly fit in the corner.

I was looking forward to trying out the latest update and was left quite disapointed, i don't think the update should have been released until these glitches were fixed.

So.. here's a few questions, if anyones got any answers they would be greatly appreciated.;

Does the track selection part on side B of the vinyl only work with the media base? could it not be used with the playlist?

When I click the "last played" tab at the top of the media base I only see the last played from the current session. Does Mixvibes not save the times of last played tracks when i save changes to my media base?

Basically what i'm trying to say is i want to create a playlist and then select each track 1 with the track selector on side B of the record.

someone should make a tutorial for the best way to use the media base with some handy tips on the best way to select track without touching the computer.

[kram_snd]

I've just re installed the update and this time i'm using the carbon V2 skin. everything seems to be working normally, i cant try the control vinyls at the moment cos my girl is sleepin but i hope everything will be workin alright tomorrow.

i like the mix rack, something that mixvibes was missin before.
i also like the simple skin, i never use loop and all that stuff so its good to have the extra screen space.

[djegun]

Is 7.21 more graphics intensive

7.21 is more graphics intensive, actually it is the mix rack and the bars that are graphic intensive.

Does the track selection part on side B of the vinyl only work with the media base? could it not be used with the playlist?

At this moment vinyl track selection only works with the mediabase.

When I click the "last played" tab at the top of the media base I only see the last played from the current session. Does Mixvibes not save the times of last played tracks when i save changes to my media base?

No sorry. But you can use a new feature of this update: the history folder of the explorer windows. It lists the played track by date.

[kram_snd]

thanks for the quick reply!
I had a go on mixvibes today, everything seemed to work alright but the track selection still seems not as responsive as before.
with 7.1 i could needle drop to the track selector and instantly it would respond and start to move through the tracks.
with 7.21 i have to move it rapidly or scratch it backwards and forwards before it responds. does anyone else have this problem?

[Cactuss]

I'm having serious issues with the update too. There is very poor tracking of the time code when scratching and wheeling forwards or back. There is also very heavy latency because it takes time to respond to your actions. This is on a vista computer. Version 7.1 responds very well.

[kram_snd]

wheeling forwards or back.

Do you mean selecting tracks? me too!

This is on a vista computer.

me too!

Version 7.1 responds very well.

I went back the version 7.1 until i can get the update working.
can anyone help?

[gakto2009]

And another thing, the little wheel graphic has been enlarged slightly (i'm guessing this was so that the newly added timecode position would fit in the middle of it) but it looks really bad, it looked a lot better of 7.1 where it neatly fit in the corner.

can you post a screen shot of this please?

[kram_snd]

gakto,

i got that sorted, it was just cos i was using the old skin. got to use the carbon V2 skin with the update

[Dj NB]

You know what bryan, I have the same problem, sometimes after while the visual stuff freezes but the sound is going!!! Whats the problem m8!?


bobo

[guchi]

Hi all,

a few month ago I posted an extensive and precise bug report of DVS 7.21 (see quote). No one from the team has ever answered me. I thought my feedback could help improve the software, but apparently it doesn't seem to bother anyone.

Anyways, here is another bug I found:

When player is in bypass and you scan for new media, bypass mode simply stops.

Hi all

first of all: thx for the update. I notice that updates come cleaner and cleaner, and I really appreciate that!

That said, they are still some bugs:

First of all ,old ones ( from before version 7)

1) (old bug before vers 7) When changing a media on the player, the monitor for the player resets to "off". This is very annoying when you are searching for a new song and change the media a few times in a row. You always have to hit the monitor button. In my case I'm using a MIDI controller, so it's a quick thing to do. But if you were using jsut the mouse this could drive you crazy ... It would be nice to fix that (i.e. the monitor state shouldn't change when loading a new media).

2) (old bug before vers 7) There's a bug I have posted a while ago (over a year) concerning the bypass mode and it's still there . When bypass is "on" and you load a media to the player, the song will be loaded, but no vinyl control is possible (even though it's switched on). On the other hand, it is possible to play the file by hitting the play button ( the vinyl button beeing still on). Try reproduce this: load a song as usual in vinyl mode, hit bypass, now load a song (bypass still on), the song is loaded (bypass still on), vinyl control is disabled although vinyl mode is still on. TO switch vinyl mode "on" again you have to toggle the button twice (i.e first off then on again).
In my opinion, when in bypass it shouldn't even be possible to load a new song (maybe a message appearing on the player that it's not possible to load a new song in bypass mode). Why do I think this is the cleanest way to do it? I am personally using an external MIDI control. I have a dedicated switch for the bypass mode, because i use it really often. Having two distinct states (on / off) it must be in sync with the software (i.e switch in upper position means "on", lower == "off"). Allowing to drop a media while in bypass mode would desyncronize the software and the controller.


And some new bugs:


3)(new bug in vers 7.21) I use to save bpm information in the comment field of mp3 tags. This field used to be displayed correctly in version 7.1, now I only see squares...

4) (old bug before vers 7) That leads me to the following bug / strange thing? Why are bpm that are saved in the "bpm" tag field not available in mixvibes? (It works in serato without any problem) It's neither possible to add a column "bpm" in the media base view, nor does any bpm information appear when slecting the bpm tree in the selection tab ?

You probably ask yourself why I'm not simply using the builtin bpm analyse. Well,I mix a lot of funk, and you know the beats aren't accurate since this is mostly live played stuff. However as I ripped a lot of new vinyl lately I decided to analyze their bpm approximately just to be able to sort them more esaily before preparing a set. I know that bpm estimation is not that easy especially on funk, so, as expected the mixvibes bpm analyzer fails on most of the tracks (no blame for that). So I decied to use mixmesiter bpm for that... and the results were better but still had to correct a lot manually. So I've been doing all this work, and I thought, yeah great, now I will save a lot of time preparing my mixes. I turned off automatic bpm analysisat laod, so that mixvibes wouldn't interfer with the manually collected "valid" bpm values, and as described above I couldn't use directly this bpm information in mixvibes (still wondering why). As a workaround I copied all this information in the comment field, so I could sort the tracks according to their bpms... Well, that worked fine untill the new update...

5) Where is the album cover view ? After one hour trying out different skins, reinstalling mixvibes and so on, I even looked up the release notes, but couldn't find any information that this feature had been removed (I mean why would you? this is / was one of the best features in mixvibes and a big + compared to serato) It's only after looking up the forum that I found out that this feature has been removed because of stability issues.

6) (old bug/strange thing before vers 7) Why do the asio input appear as an audio song in all the fields once you have used bypass mode? I use rme rpm board.. I always get something like that "asio rpm in 1_2" added to my song list... it even appears as an extension in the tree view. THis is really a strange thing. A while ago, a friend of mine didn't know what it was so he droped it into one of the players: the system crashed. Lukilely it was at the start of the gig, but we always used his serato after that... It 's only with mixvibes 7 that confidence slowly went back. Since vesion 7, I never had any crash again... My confidence level is increasing steadily...

That leads me to the following remark / request and I think maybe other people have the same thoughts:

I really like mixvibes ! I have been using it for years now. I use it beacause I like the vibe about it. It's a good community and nice developper team, and they're french and i'm french so I like supporting it :;) Furthermore, I've been using it for years, so I've seen it growing like a baby, lol...
However, sometimes I really get annoyed by the numerous bugs. Basically, it never works all at the time. When a new feature comes in, a new bug also find its way in.
I'm not blaming anyone for that. I think it's amazing how many new features you come up with each release.
But, personnally, I don't need all these new features ! I would really really prefer much less new features, but as a counterpart a strong effort on bug fixing, robustness and user friendlyness.

The problem is the follwing: As soon as there is a new feature, people want to try it out (like me). For instance, the cover view... I used to live without it. But as the feature came in, of course I wanted to use it, so I cleaned up all my mp3, making sure the covers are integrated int he id3 tags ans so on. I just started being used to it, and now... new release and it's gone... just like that, without any notice ( maybe I have overseen it, but I guess not).

I don't want to blame anyone. I bought mixvibes a long time ago, and still get updates for free (where other companies would call it upgrades or new versions that they would sell for a lot of money) . That is great... thx a lot for that...

Personnally I would be more than happy paying for a new clean update, one that you can install from scratch (not this bad looking 2 directory 2 exe kind of stuff as it is right now). If the releases were stable each time, people could choose between getting the new features (pay for the development) or stick with their stable version if they don't need the new features...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you have to make people pay for updates, but if that would fix the resource bottleneck for testing / bug fixing, do it ! Maybe a donate kind of thing like in the open source world ?! I think a lot of people would be glad to support development (including me) that way...


Peace,
guchi