DDJ SZ Jog Wheel Issues

[dj_decka]

Hey RoJeC n Fig,

Ro:

Sorry about the mix up. I wasnt paying attention.

I will store it on my desktop so I can easly copy whatever I MIDI in the future and save it to a flashdrive in case of a full system failure.

Thank you for your help.


Fig:

I found your mapping for the DDJ-SX.

Still giving me the same go around.


These are the problems I am having:


1. Dial marker does not start at 12 o'clock

2. When pressing pause then back to play, Dial marker does not resume rotation.

3. When using Cue, Dial marker does not rotate when held down.

4. When using Hot Cue, Dial marker does not resume rotation.


I hope this makes sense. If need be... I can make a video of the issues I'm having and send it to you.


Thank you again both of you for your patience and help with fixing the dial marker.

[FigDJ]

I expected those problems to still be present because the map does not includes the codes for proper jog dial illumination, or the output from the needle search position.

However, I wanted to know if everything else (except for the mentioned problems) still worked with the DDJ-SZ. That file is more complex and powerful than the provided standard DDJ-SX. if it does work then I will use it as a baseline and modify it to include the proper codes for the jog dial illumination and take advantage of the additional features in the DDJ-SZ.

[FigDJ]

Also if you are using the standard DDJ-SX map or the custom one that I made, how are you working the navigation in collection.

I know the push button works as a load deck, in but the DDJ-SZ layout I don't see how to open a directory with those maps as it use performprimarybrowsable command and the MIDI addres is not supported in the DDJ-sz but it is on the SX.

[dj_decka]

Well...the way around that was to use the mouse to select the area i wanted browse. then scroll with the punchbutton...and press it when i wanna load a song.

From what a can tell...You mapping for the SX with the SZ...Its all good for now.

[FigDJ]

Well...the way around that was to use the mouse to select the area i wanted browse. then scroll with the punchbutton...and press it when i wanna load a song.

From what a can tell...You mapping for the SX with the SZ...Its all good for now.

I started the mod to the file and will include the changes to navigation to make it work. They turned out to be just about the same as the DDJ-SR for navigation.

[daniel clark]

MIDI MONSTER chomping away at the mapping

[FigDJ]

Well...the way around that was to use the mouse to select the area i wanted browse. then scroll with the punchbutton...and press it when i wanna load a song.

From what a can tell...You mapping for the SX with the SZ...Its all good for now.

dj_decka

Thanks for the reply.
I am working on the full map for the DDJ-SZ, however, I need some help. There are some things that require testing and I am unable to do them because I don't have the controller.

More questions
What happens when you pre shift + slip
The expected behavior is to cahnge the jog wheel mode to vinyl to CD and back. When this happens the center of the jog wheel should light up for vinyl mode. Is this mode change and illumination working right now? In the DDJ-SX set up this a hardware or software function. According to Mixvibes instructions it should be left in the hardware mode but I don't know if it applies to the DDJ-SZ.

[FigDJ]

Good and bad news

Good 1st

I completed a full MIDI map for the DDJ-SZ. The diferent navigation from the SX to the SZ is resolved.

Bad news
According to the controller's manual, the jog ilumination for the track progress only works in Serato mode.

[dj_decka]

Hey Fig,

That's great to hear about the navigation. I took her out for her big debut last night and I realized instantly how much I relied on the navigation.

Since the SZ uses two load dials... I was thinking of using the left load dial to scroll through the playlist section and the right load dial to scroll through the song list.

Another thing to....I would like to change how it strinks and extends auto loop before engaging auto loop.

As of now...You need to press Shift...then select how much you want to strink or extend auto loop. I would like to get rid of the shift completely.


Now....for the burners


Needle search doesn't work when you apply moderate pressure. Only when gently touching the strip....it begins to work.

Tempo control does not work properly. Moving it up or down...only changes the tempo slightly....producing slight random tempo changes.

Also I noticed that the jog wheel flickers slightly when the song is paused. Jog wheel however does not flicker when playback is happening.

[FigDJ]

Hey Fig,

Since the SZ uses two load dials... I was thinking of using the left load dial to scroll through the playlist section and the right load dial to scroll through the song list.

Can't be done because the two load dials they are 2 physical dials they share the same parameter(address) and the same channel.

On the coming map I set up horizontal or column navigation by using
Shift+dial (command = ChangeActiveBrowsable)

The vertical navigation is just the dial
(command = BrowseActiveBrowsable)

The push button will load the track depending on which deck you have selected.

Deck 1
Push button = LoadInPlayerA
Shift + push button = Player A ReloadAsCloneOfMaster

Deck 2
Push button = LoadInPlayerB
Shift + push button = Player B ReloadAsCloneOfMaster

Deck 3
Push button = LoadInPlayerC
Shift + push button = Player C ReloadAsCloneOfMaster

If deck 3 is sampler 1 then
Shift + push button = Sampler 1 BrowseSampleBankList
Push button = Sampler 1 LoadSelectedSampleBank

Deck 4
Push button = LoadInPlayer4
Shift + push button = Player D ReloadAsCloneOfMaster

If deck 4 is sampler 1 then
Shift + push button = Sampler 2 BrowseSampleBankList
Push button = Sampler 2 LoadSelectedSampleBank

BACK=PerformPrimaryActionOnActiveBrowsable
pressing this will allow you to open the directory selected in the tree or if you are already in a list it will turn on the track preview.

Shift+BACK = ExpandCollapseCollection

LOAD PREPARE = AddToPrepare

Shift+LOAD PREPARE = app(FullScreen)

Had to change the FX section a bit.

R = rotaries 1,2,3
PB = Pushbutton 1,2,3

R1= Titler image Size
Shift+R1= Titler Image Transparency

R2 = FX Amount
Shift+R2 = Titler Placement Index

R3= FX Depth
Shift+R3= Titler Text X Speed

BEATS = FX Select
Shift+BEATS = Trasition Type

PB1= Enable Titler image
Shift+PB1=Tiltler Image Preset Index

PB2 = Load Audio
Shift+PB2 = Load Video

PB3 = FX Input for Master
Shift+PB3 = Changes tIme Display Mode for deck 1 and 3

TAP=FX Mode switch
Shift+TAP = Bidirectional FX on/off

All controls are the same for FX2 except for the following.
All titler functions are for the text titler.
FX applies to FX 2
Deck applies to deck 2 and 4.
Shift+R3= Titler Text Y Speed

LEDs

PB1 ON = FX ON
PB2 Blink = Video and audio are not from the same file
PB3 ON = INput for FX unit set to MASTER
BEATS = Blinks at diferent rates depending on AV switch for FX

Another thing to....I would like to change how it strinks and extends auto loop before engaging auto loop.

As of now...You need to press Shift...then select how much you want to strink or extend auto loop. I would like to get rid of the shift completely.

OK the current configuration is
1/2X= LoopHalve
2X= LoopDouble

Shift+ 1/2X= AutoLoopSelect decrement
Shift+ 2X= AutoLoopSelect increment

I can swap the commands to normally use AutoLoopSelect decrement
and increment. Then use the shift for LoopHalve and LoopDouble.

Otherwise you loose LoopHalve and LoopDouble commands.

Needle search doesn't work when you apply moderate pressure. Only when gently touching the strip....it begins to work.

On this one the sensitivity of the strip may need to be adjusted. i don't own the controller so I can't set a sensitivity and test it correctly.

Tempo control does not work properly. Moving it up or down...only changes the tempo slightly....producing slight random tempo changes.

I checked the map on this one and it is mapped correctly. You might want to check your tempo range and increase it.

Also I noticed that the jog wheel flickers slightly when the song is paused. Jog wheel however does not flicker when playback is happening.

This may have to do with the interval at which the jog dial send update signals to the internal procesor.

The jog dial sends a signal tot he processor and the processor rersponds with the proper LED readout. If the interval is set at a greater number the updates are going to be too slow and you may see some flicker.

This is a hardware adjustment, there are instructions on the DDJ-SZ manual for the adjustment.
Remember
Higher interval number= less updates and you may see some flicker
Lower interval number= more updates and the flicker may dissappear.

Since this is strickly hardware, it shouldn't have an impact on the computer's processing power but I don't know for sure. Again this is something that I can't test since I don't own the controller or have one available to test. It is possible this is related to the fact that the jogwheels on the DDJ-SZ are larger than those on the DDJ-SX.

There are 2 versions included, the difference is on the 14bit MIDI tables. Please let me know which one works best. Full documentation will follow.

DDJSZ32CV2.zip