Cross List Of Suggestions and DDJ-SX remapping

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Cross List Of Suggestions and DDJ-SX remapping

Postby Qienja on 04 Aug 2013, 21:51

Ok, I purchased the software yesterday and today I've discovered it in the most part.

I admid that Cross have very good potential, but as today it's unripe and pretty unusable for me.

Not a good way to spent my money for now so, but for tomorrow it could became a great piece of software, if:



Software improvements:

- First of all, improve stability :!: Macbook Pro mid 2012 4gb ram: with 4 decks playing it's all a jitter.
When I use the same setup with traktor pro 2 plus 4/5 effects always on, it works flawless. To notice I have an AIFF library

- Drag and drop a loop locator into a sample bank empty space

- Ability to link a sample bank to a track and an option to load the sample bank automatically when I load the related track

- Bank of locators: sets of 8 locators per bank with a bank selector

- The banks of locators can be chained to a playlist, so when you load a track from a determinate playlist the related bank of locators loads automatically. Bank of locators linked to a playlist have the playlist name + number of bank as name, banks related only to a track can be renamed as the user want

- Introduce fade-in/fade-out locators, with the ability to choose the destination deck of single fade-out locator, ex: fade-out locator at 04:34:7 to fade out in deck d fade in locator. Fade in/out locators doesn't control volume or stop but only start of tracks

- Effects are good but FX section it's a crap: add a 3 effect on same fx channel setup for non bidimensional configuration. And, of course, the effects should be assigned to whatever channels we want, a or b or c or d or all four channel simultaneously (or no channel)

- Insert the possibility to add tags to the songs, for example #bigdrop, #notforchildren or #truelove and to use them in search and smart playlists

- Ability to erase all locators and analysis with one button

- Insert an option to use full kill EQ and filters (primary for me)

- Insert an option to use limiters on single channels

- Insert an option to use one custom setting as the master for bpm and tone sync of all deck

- Sync bar in decks under the waveform, referred to master

- Insert an option to view the real note, ex: Emin, C

- Add the option to use decks a and b as sampler decks

- Ability to choose deck color (like cubase or pt) and the option to see that color in the column of channel in EQ section

- Add some polishing in visual effects and transitions, this is only a personal opinion but all the software seems a little too rough and “windows styled”

- Fix tag issue with AIFF files, software wont read my tags on AIFF files (that are all of my collection)




DDJ-SX mapping changes:

- Sample volume fader (center fader) to control cue mix

- FX1 and FX2 selection on beats knob (Shift + knob 1... what a good idea, sigh)

- “Panel select” button to control “collection view expanded” instead of deck layout change, I think that nobody want to change from 4 to 2 decks (and viceversa) set during performance

- Option to unchain deck a from deck c (and b from d) and insert an option to use slicer section on deck a and b to perform levare rolling and use sampler section in some other creative way, for example harmonic random slice (keeping the groove)

- I Can't delete a sample on sample deck c using shift + pad button

- When using hot slice bank on deck c 1/2X and 2X button doesn't work on deck a

- Several functions and button aren't mapped, as shift + most button, knob and faders


If you folks add all this changes I really can stop from using traktor, but if not I just wasted 80€, especially for the instability of the software.

And, of course, I really hate to waste my money.

But I'm confident, you seems to upgrade the software very often.

I hope you guys will impress me soon
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Re: Cross List Of Suggestions and DDJ-SX remapping

Postby UncleVibes on 05 Aug 2013, 09:53

But I'm confident, you seems to upgrade the software very often.

I hope you guys will impress me soon


Message received 5/5 thanks for your suggestions.
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Re: Cross List Of Suggestions and DDJ-SX remapping

Postby P_Jean on 05 Aug 2013, 10:51

DDJ-SX mapping changes:

- Sample volume fader (center fader) to control cue mix

We have 8 volume controls by sampler, 16 in all.
Manage as it is written on the DDJ-SX in a single fader does not make sense in relation to the configuration and behavior of Cross.
Each sampler is managed by its general volume (Deck C Deck D)


- FX1 and FX2 selection on beats knob (Shift + knob 1... what a good idea, sigh)

If you read the documentation related to mapping, shift + beats is related to another function.

- “Panel select” button to control “collection view expanded” instead of deck layout change, I think that nobody want to change from 4 to 2 decks (and viceversa) set during performance

When you create a mapping, the principle of quality is as close as possible to the silk-screen controller. "Panel Select" is set as it should be
2 decks / 4 decks

- Option to unchain deck a from deck c (and b from d) and insert an option to use slicer section on deck a and b to perform levare rolling and use sampler section in some other creative way, for example harmonic random slice (keeping the groove)

As you say, it is an option.

- I Can't delete a sample on sample deck c using shift + pad button

To delete a sample:
- 1 - from the drive A: click on the Sampler button and shift + Pad
- 2 - from the C drive (sampler mode): Make shift + Hotcue -> Hotcue Button blink, and you can remove it with the pad of his choice

Same on B/D.

- When using hot slice bank on deck c 1/2X and 2X button doesn't work on deck a

Yes, this is not programmed that way ...
Thank you to read the doc ...

- Several functions and button aren't mapped, as shift + most button, knob and faders


If you folks add all this changes I really can stop from using traktor, but if not I just wasted 80€, especially for the instability of the software.

And, of course, I really hate to waste my money.

But I'm confident, you seems to upgrade the software very often.

I hope you guys will impress me soon

Yes, maybe ... But the proposed mapping is used at 100%.
It may not meet your expectations, but he wants generalist with some innovations. Nothing prevents you from duplicate and modify it according to your good wills.
So the mapping will not be changed.

We are different from Traktor, VDJ and others. We can not find its footing by using the software with patience.

But,wanting to existing functions on other software is legitimate and logical.

Thank you very much for your report. ;)
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Re: Cross List Of Suggestions and DDJ-SX remapping

Postby Qienja on 05 Aug 2013, 17:35

P_Jean wrote:
DDJ-SX mapping changes:

- Sample volume fader (center fader) to control cue mix

We have 8 volume controls by sampler, 16 in all.
Manage as it is written on the DDJ-SX in a single fader does not make sense in relation to the configuration and behavior of Cross.
Each sampler is managed by its general volume (Deck C Deck D)


Sure, for this reason sample fader could be assigned to cue mix, the main mix of cue listen


- FX1 and FX2 selection on beats knob (Shift + knob 1... what a good idea, sigh)

If you read the documentation related to mapping, shift + beats is related to another function.


When I remapped the beats knob (control change 0, so bank select... the knob itself tell you how to map it lol :) ), software doesn't tell me that it was assigned to another function, so I don't understand what are you saying.
I don't ever mentioned shift + beats, but knob beats


- “Panel select” button to control “collection view expanded” instead of deck layout change, I think that nobody want to change from 4 to 2 decks (and viceversa) set during performance
When you create a mapping, the principle of quality is as close as possible to the silk-screen controller. "Panel Select" is set as it should be
2 decks / 4 decks


Point of view here, maybe yours as manufacter should be that


- Option to unchain deck a from deck c (and b from d) and insert an option to use slicer section on deck a and b to perform levare rolling and use sampler section in some other creative way, for example harmonic random slice (keeping the groove)

As you say, it is an option.


Sure an option, so maps some shift + something to activate that option


- I Can't delete a sample on sample deck c using shift + pad button
To delete a sample:
- 1 - from the drive A: click on the Sampler button and shift + Pad
- 2 - from the C drive (sampler mode): Make shift + Hotcue -> Hotcue Button blink, and you can remove it with the pad of his choice

Same on B/D.


Why two different way to do the same thing? I don't think that is so smart


- When using hot slice bank on deck c 1/2X and 2X button doesn't work on deck a

Yes, this is not programmed that way ...
Thank you to read the doc ...


I know that is not programmed that way, but as it's programmed now it's unconfortable and comfortless in my opinion. When I use a sampler deck, I want to be able to choose the lenght of my sample and after that put it in a sample bank slot. Am I wrong?


- Several functions and button aren't mapped, as shift + most button, knob and faders

If you folks add all this changes I really can stop from using traktor, but if not I just wasted 80€, especially for the instability of the software.

And, of course, I really hate to waste my money.

But I'm confident, you seems to upgrade the software very often.

I hope you guys will impress me soon

Yes, maybe ... But the proposed mapping is used at 100%.
It may not meet your expectations, but he wants generalist with some innovations. Nothing prevents you from duplicate and modify it according to your good wills.
So the mapping will not be changed.

We are different from Traktor, VDJ and others. We can not find its footing by using the software with patience.

But,wanting to existing functions on other software is legitimate and logical.

Thank you very much for your report. ;)


I'm only trying to tell how to change mapping to help first impact of users that aren't able to change mapping themself.

It's not really for me, I have remapped the sx as soon as I see what was wrong, but for your image.

If you don't think that changes could be helpful, simply don't do that

We are different from Traktor, VDJ and others. We can not find its footing by using the software with patience.


Think I don't get this phrase :neutral:
My english isn't so well :D
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Re: Cross List Of Suggestions and DDJ-SX remapping

Postby Qienja on 05 Aug 2013, 17:44

UncleVibes wrote:
But I'm confident, you seems to upgrade the software very often.

I hope you guys will impress me soon


Message received 5/5 thanks for your suggestions.


You can mention my nick in the credits lol :mrgreen:

Only joking, thanks to you for the good after purchase customer service
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