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Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby Reticuli on 30 Jun 2013, 21:03

Or is it only a fixed selection in the sound options/configuration menu?
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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby daniel clark on 30 Jun 2013, 21:12

:cool: :cool: if you are asking if you can change audio set ups on the fly ,, thinking not ,,if that not what you are asking then explain futher,, :cool: :cool:

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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby Reticuli on 30 Jun 2013, 21:59

I do not have the software installed on my system... hence the reason for the question.

Do you understand what split cue is? I'm talking about the ability to do this in-software when in internal mixer mode, and turning it off and on on-the-fly. I saw it mentioned on the forum during a Google search that Mixvibes can do split cue, but saw only a reference to it as an option in sound configuration.

For the record, I do not consider fixed sound menu options for split cue to actually *be* split cue. Every DVS can do that by simply assigning mono channels in sound options. The ability to manually switch it on and off while mixing through a mapped trigger (I use a fader extreme in Torq 2, a button in Deckadance) to do it is an important feature to me when shopping.

Lately I've been bothered by Torq's sound quality and InMusic dropping the software.

I also found some of Deckadance's problems seem to have not been addressed by ImageLine, and they've further messed certain things up on it in V2.

Then there is the fact that both of those have post-fader channel meters. Strange quirks.

I own both of those (many versions of Deckadance), and VDJ LE and Traktor LE. I have also used the demos for VDJ full and Traktor Pro but not been impressed with certain aspects... such as lack of split cue. I have no interest in Serato DJ after my initial issues getting it configured, then just completely uninstalled it.

The last two DVS I've looked at are Mixxx, which is only 2-channel and clunky, and finally Mixvibes Cross DJ. I've never used the latter at all. I heard about it through my investigation into the strange recent phenomenon that is Rekordbox sweeping through the club industry. Can’t say I’m very impressed with Rekordbox, but the fact the company that made it has its own DVS is of interest. And that DVS being 4 deck now and maybe having split cue might be what I’m looking for.

Anyone have an answer to the split cue question? Thanks.
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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby UncleVibes on 30 Jun 2013, 22:05

The answer is yes but if Cross got 4 decks only 2 today have a DVS option (time code)
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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby daniel clark on 30 Jun 2013, 22:30

:cool: :cool: thanks for more info ,,there is a free version of Cross ,will post a link for it and the comparsion page ,,might give you a better idea about the software ,, the comparision page is to show you what the free version is lacking :cool: :idea:
http://www.mixvibes.com/content/product ... comparison
comparsion page is a little outdated to new versions
http://www.mixvibes.com/
im header is a tab for free version ,,should be 2.4 :?:
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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby FigDJ on 01 Jul 2013, 00:55

Reticuli wrote:I do not have the software installed on my system... hence the reason for the question.

Do you understand what split cue is? I'm talking about the ability to do this in-software when in internal mixer mode, and turning it off and on on-the-fly. I saw it mentioned on the forum during a Google search that MixVibes can do split cue, but saw only a reference to it as an option in sound configuration.

For the record, I do not consider fixed sound menu options for split cue to actually *be* split cue. Every DVS can do that by simply assigning mono channels in sound options. The ability to manually switch it on and off while mixing through a mapped trigger (I use a fader extreme in Torq 2, a button in Deckadance) to do it is an important feature to me when shopping.

Lately I've been bothered by Torq's sound quality and InMusic dropping the software.

I also found some of Deckadance's problems seem to have not been addressed by ImageLine, and they've further messed certain things up on it in V2.

Then there is the fact that both of those have post-fader channel meters. Strange quirks.

I own both of those (many versions of Deckadance), and VDJ LE and Traktor LE. I have also used the demos for VDJ full and Traktor Pro but not been impressed with certain aspects... such as lack of split cue. I have no interest in Serato DJ after my initial issues getting it configured, then just completely uninstalled it.

The last two DVS I've looked at are Mixxx, which is only 2-channel and clunky, and finally MixVibes Cross DJ. I've never used the latter at all. I heard about it through my investigation into the strange recent phenomenon that is Rekordbox sweeping through the club industry. Can’t say I’m very impressed with Rekordbox, but the fact the company that made it has its own DVS is of interest. And that DVS being 4 deck now and maybe having split cue might be what I’m looking for.

Anyone have an answer to the split cue question? Thanks.


Even when the question has already been answered. Yes Cross is capable of internal mixer split cue that is mapable.

Command is
In&Out fam(Mixer).CueMix (Normal)

I just wanted to add that I am a convert from Torq and let me tell you , You won't be disappointed. There are a couple of things that are still missing from what Torq could do but I am very happy with my Cross DJ.
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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby Reticuli on 02 Jul 2013, 05:19

Thanks FigDJ. It actually still wasn't clear since the other poster started talking about timecode in the same sentence. I wasn't sure if the "yes" was related to the split cue.

Does Mixvibes have track compatibility like Virtual DJ? VDJ seems to utilize chord theory to match up dissimilar keys. I'm wondering if a combination of that combined with BPM analysis could show compatible tracks also for when key correction will not be used.

What is your opinion on Mixvibes' custom mapping capability on any generic MIDI controller?

And finally, how seemless is using Mixvibes at home and then switching over to Pioneer gear in clubs? Does Cross DJ improve the transition or do you find it makes no difference and you still have to deal with Rekordbox on the side?

Thanks.

FigDJ wrote:
Even when the question has already been answered. Yes Cross is capable of internal mixer split cue that is mapable.

Command is
In&Out fam(Mixer).CueMix (Normal)

I just wanted to add that I am a convert from Torq and let me tell you , You won't be disappointed. There are a couple of things that are still missing from what Torq could do but I am very happy with my Cross DJ.
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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby FigDJ on 02 Jul 2013, 12:31

Reticuli wrote:Thanks FigDJ. It actually still wasn't clear since the other poster started talking about timecode in the same sentence. I wasn't sure if the "yes" was related to the split cue.

Does MixVibes have track compatibility like Virtual DJ? VDJ seems to utilize chord theory to match up dissimilar keys. I'm wondering if a combination of that combined with BPM analysis could show compatible tracks also for when key correction will not be used.

What is your opinion on MixVibes' custom mapping capability on any generic MIDI controller?

And finally, how seemless is using MixVibes at home and then switching over to Pioneer gear in clubs? Does Cross DJ improve the transition or do you find it makes no difference and you still have to deal with Rekordbox on the side?

Thanks.

FigDJ wrote:
Even when the question has already been answered. Yes Cross is capable of internal mixer split cue that is mapable.

Command is
In&Out fam(Mixer).CueMix (Normal)

I just wanted to add that I am a convert from Torq and let me tell you , You won't be disappointed. There are a couple of things that are still missing from what Torq could do but I am very happy with my Cross DJ.


What I do on my own is that before I add a track to Cross collection I use a third party software to analyze and detect key and write that to the comments. When I add the track to Cross it reads the comments. I then analyze, beatgrid, set cue points and copy the key value to the key field. Then in Cross I use smartlist to give a track list that is in BPM order or only the tracks with compatible keys. In the Camelot wheel every key has 3 other keys that are compatible, so I use that criteria to create the smartlist.

Cross mapping capabilities are great for any MIDI controller, however I think there is room for improvement on the output mapping capabilities (LED mapping). It is possible to map but it is not user friendly for those that don't want to dive into xml.

I take my controller with me and connect the output to the club mixer so I do not have a useful comment on this last one question.
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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby gullum on 02 Jul 2013, 12:39

Reticuli wrote:Thanks FigDJ. It actually still wasn't clear since the other poster started talking about timecode in the same sentence. I wasn't sure if the "yes" was related to the split cue.

Does MixVibes have track compatibility like Virtual DJ? VDJ seems to utilize chord theory to match up dissimilar keys. I'm wondering if a combination of that combined with BPM analysis could show compatible tracks also for when key correction will not be used.

What is your opinion on MixVibes' custom mapping capability on any generic MIDI controller?

And finally, how seemless is using MixVibes at home and then switching over to Pioneer gear in clubs? Does Cross DJ improve the transition or do you find it makes no difference and you still have to deal with Rekordbox on the side?

Thanks.

With Cross you can sort tracks by BPM or Key and if your tracks are analysed as Camelot key it's only a matter of +- 1 to find matching key.

I find Cross easy to custom map at least as easy as VDJ although you need to do some XML coding for LED feedback. There is also a MIDI out app but I think you need to be a register user to gain access to that software.
If you play in a club that has Pioneer gear that is rekordbox ready all you need to do is connect the players through USB to your computer and use them in HID mode. This means they control Cross in the same way they would control your Rekordbox USB stick.
In HID mode what a button on the CDJ would to as standalone(Rekordbox) it will do the same in Cross
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Re: Is split cue on-the-fly & mappable

Postby daniel clark on 02 Jul 2013, 13:08

:cool: :cool: :!: IMPORTANT INFO,,,Cross is hid /timecode capable ... Cross DJ is MIDI controlled only.... :eek:
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