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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby dj_cross_fade on 22 Feb 2013, 21:06

j-kut wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUrKewr5rI :lol: :lol:



no................... not ...............................that...................my ears or ...................bleeding .... the horror

um still not as bad as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n_E4sDewtM :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby Support@MixVibes on 25 Feb 2013, 12:45

The worst for me was the sound quality. I posted one time on their board and been bashed, beaten to death.

Frequency analyser didn't show anything, but with any soundcard (Connectiv, FA66, Audio4) I use, their was still lacking sub and bottom end : any other softwares didn't have this issue.

I guess it has something to do with harmonics as I couldn't measure/show/prove it, but heard and feel it (and I wasn't the only one into my circles).
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby Hannes on 25 Feb 2013, 14:34

true, same goes for traktor but in a different way, they internally limit sh*t to death (i.e. same volume on playback and scratching...)
so it sounds like crap to me.
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby dj_cross_fade on 26 Feb 2013, 00:54

ya also i remember thinking why does all m audio DJ gear look like it came from a kids toys shop :eek: Stanton went that way to :lol:
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby Hannes on 26 Feb 2013, 01:00

Disagree with your opinion on Stanton,
But why in God's name did they make the 150s blue?
They just match with nothing.

And in general and for all manufacturers: if you use red LEDs on your gear, buy red ones, not that "hello kitty" pink ones!

:mad: :mad: :razz: :lol:
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby dj_cross_fade on 26 Feb 2013, 01:13

Support@MixVibes wrote:The worst for me was the sound quality. I posted one time on their board and been bashed, beaten to death.

Frequency analyser didn't show anything, but with any soundcard (Connectiv, FA66, Audio4) I use, their was still lacking sub and bottom end : any other softwares didn't have this issue.

I guess it has something to do with harmonics as I couldn't measure/show/prove it, but heard and feel it (and I wasn't the only one into my circles).

i tryed it with the rme rpm with a few tweeks to get it running at 24 bit 9600
and it sounded alil better lol 1,000 us and you can get m audio torq to sound lil better vs mixvibes Cross priceless sound that only the gods can make !!!!! :eek: mixvibes Cross its made by gods buy it now :lol:
:D Cross feels warm to me with high end audio . :D
its to bad i had to sell my rme to pay bills 1 year ago
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby dj_cross_fade on 26 Feb 2013, 01:40

j-kut wrote:Disagree with your opinion on Stanton,
But why in God's name did they make the 150s blue?
They just match with nothing.

And in general and for all manufacturers: if you use red LEDs on your gear, buy red ones, not that "hello kitty" pink ones!

:mad: :mad: :razz: :lol:

ok the decks look ok but ya thats ture they dont if i where to get some i would have a custom skin made right of the bat from styleflip.com
seeing how they closed the Vestax turntable repair shop by my house :eek: its something i would have to think about later .
but im talking about is why the colors they have on there mixers
Stanton M203 2 :neutral: . now look at Vestax and rane they have sexy looking mixers.
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby dj_cross_fade on 26 Feb 2013, 01:53

p.s on the 150s i have seen them in white :surprised: very nice
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby MusicMeister on 04 Mar 2013, 02:04

I'm just waiting...

I was a beta tester and moderator for the Torq-DJ forums for years (technically, I guess I'm still a moderator on the old forums but they want users to go to the inmusic forums now).

If you got beat up, I'm sorry, the push from the start was to develop a community of people who would listen and share and not come down on someone because they used something else like the fanboys on the Serato forums.

That being said, they've had issues over the years, and I've avoided much of it by using other sound cards. When the Xponent driver freaked out, I had to reset my rig because I was using an NRV-10 for my sound card at the time. ;) Later I was using a Fast Track Ultra 8R - and still continue to use that for a LOT of my DJ work.

Hands down it's been the most feature rich software on the market and many of the shortcomings are tied to their early choices. For example, the Ms. Pinky timecode engine is likely why there's so many issues for the hardcore scratch artists.

They did make some smart decisions later on - including dumping the flat file database in favor of SQLite (something I pushed to them early on). BTW, I noticed someone else is using SQLite as well. ;)

Despite the software's advances though, the company never really seemed to embrace Torq, nor the entire DJ division of M-Audio. InMusic seems to be doing their typical dump of software like they've done in the past. Sure they did a neat new keyboard software with the Air group but nothing on the Torq front.

On a side note, 2.x seems to be fairly nice for the most part, but there are some serious limitations under the hood with regards to MIDI mapping back to the hardware. And unlike Cross which just requires some hand coding, you're pretty much hosed with Denon hardware with Torq. Trust me, I spent a week mapping the DN-4500 and sent multiple requests in that went to the developers... part of that is compiled and hard coded. And the default mappings were NOT created by a DJ - that was OBVIOUS.

In the end, I'm current caught in a 3 way pull... While I love Torq and it's rich feature set, I'm leaving it for greener pastures, but slowly. There's a lot of work in changing software. The two way pull I have now is between Traktor for audio and Cross for Video. The lack of Apple lossless support keeps me from jumping 100% to Cross for everything and traktor doesn't do video so I'm in a 0 sum game at this point.

Perhaps in time....

All I know is I refuse to move to Virtual DJ, even if they paid me. Serato is too tied to custom hardware (the openness is one of the things I loved about Torq) and the others out there seem to be limited in one way or another.... (Deckadance, Mixxx, etc.)

As for the sound quality issues....

The conectiv has some unusual design choices that were made. For example, the phono pre-amps are rathe quiet. They did that to prevent clipping during scratching but then recording or playback of real vinyl happens at a much lower volume. The output from the computer though is hot as hell. It causes me to play with the gains constantly when I switch between real and TC vinyl.
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Re: m audio torq out the game (MixVibes attack now)

Postby MusicMeister on 05 Mar 2013, 01:39

Oh woe is me.... Had the deal of a lifetime on an Audio 10 and picked one up today. :cry: Guess I need to sell off 2 Conectivs at this point...
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