1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

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1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby barren fell on 09 Nov 2010, 11:03

In "1 Turntable mode" I can switch deck focus/vinyl control with the TAB key between the decks and everything works fine - I can alternating control both decks with one turntable.

But one thing puzzles me:
Both waveforms of the beatmatch view are always responding simultaneously to the movement of the vinyl! In result: if you match the tempo of two tracks, the beatmatch view indicates two different tempos - what is predictable, since both track waveforms of the beatmatch view are erroneously "hanging" on the same needle ;)

Not so needle view and the complete waveform of the decks; they both follow correctly the vinyl movement on the focused deck and internal sync on the non-focused deck. And the audible output to the mixer is also correct - so this is more a visual issue and the beatmatch view can not be used for beatmatching.

What am I doing wrong? Or is the beatmatch view simply not designed for "1 Turntable mode"?

Thanks in advance for some info
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Re: 1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby sylMV on 09 Nov 2010, 11:18

Hi !

I don't really get it...
The beatmatcher displays the exact position of both tracks at their respective pitch values.
If both follow your vinyl movements, it means both players follow them too (then the music too) and the only way to get that is to connect one turntable to 2 inputs (using Y cables) -- or have a defective soundcard...

Please check your setup and maybe try to give me some further details about your problem, I may have misunderstood ...

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Re: 1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby Support@MixVibes on 09 Nov 2010, 12:33

You need to have only one external control activate.
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Re: 1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby barren fell on 09 Nov 2010, 12:53

Ah, I am getting a clue.

My normal config with 2 TTs is:
Deck input A: vinyl control from input 1 / 2 - Deck A output 1 / 2
Deck input B: vinyl control from input 3 / 4 - Deck B output 3 / 4

with 1 Turntable I configured:
Deck input A: vinyl control from input 1 / 2 - Deck A output 1 / 2
Deck input B: vinyl control from input 1 / 2 - Deck B output 3 / 4
(I thought these settings were managed by the "Only 1 Turntable" button... :confused:)

Now I will change it to:
Deck input A: vinyl control from input 1 / 2 - Deck A output 1 / 2
Deck input B: deactivated - Deck B output 3 / 4

Thank you for quuuuuuick response, will try this tonight
2 x DualCore E6300, 4GB, Win 7 Ultimate 64
DualCore E5300, 2GB, Win 7 Ultimate 32
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Turntables
2 x Stanton STR8-20 ;) , 2 x Stanton 500
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2 x Sync X.Trem 1, 2 x Ortofon Scratch
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Re: 1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby Support@MixVibes on 09 Nov 2010, 14:40

barren fell wrote:with 1 Turntable I configured:
Deck input A: vinyl control from input 1 / 2 - Deck A output 1 / 2
Deck input B: vinyl control from input 1 / 2 - Deck B output 3 / 4

(I thought these settings were managed by the "Only 1 Turntable" button... :confused:)

Now I will change it to:
Deck input A: vinyl control from input 1 / 2 - Deck A output 1 / 2
Deck input B: deactivated - Deck B output 3 / 4


Thank you for quuuuuuick response, will try this tonight


You should be ok.
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Re: 1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby barren fell on 09 Nov 2010, 21:39

Hmm, NO!
With the settings of Pic 01 I can switch over Vinyl control with TAB. The vinyl deck responds to vinyl movement, the unselected deck runs on internal sync and vice versa. One can see and hear that... everything is fine. But: both waveforms of the beatmatch view are always responding on vinyl movements!

With the settings of Pic 02 and 03 (differ in "1 Turntable" button) only Player 2 responds to vinyl control. Player 1 must be started via Play button and does not react on vinyl control, no matter what player is selected via TAB. Without saying the beat match view behaves normal: player 2 reacts to vinyl, player 1 plays straight on.

Soundcard and setup is OK since it runs as always - when activating both inputs everything is normal (2 TTs controlling separate decks)

Please keep in mind: this is not really a serious issue! I just thought it could sometimes be comfortable to carry around only 1 TT....Hmm, I will continue to carry around 2 TTs - it's cooler anyway :cool:

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Numark Cue/Virtual DJ, Torq, Deckadance, PCDJ Dex/djDecks, Touch DVS, Cross, DVS Ultimate, Traktor Scratch Pro, Spin 2, Fruity Loops Producer
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Turntables
2 x Stanton STR8-20 ;) , 2 x Stanton 500
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2 x Technics 1200, 2 x Ortofon Pro S
2 x Sync X.Trem 1, 2 x Ortofon Scratch
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Re: 1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby Support@MixVibes on 10 Nov 2010, 11:53

Oh sorry I was talking of Cross :!:
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Re: 1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby barren fell on 10 Nov 2010, 12:18

Sorry from my side, didn't say that I'm talking of DVS :redface:

But good idea :biggrin: will try this with Cross just for fun (although DVS is my favoured child atm ;) )
2 x DualCore E6300, 4GB, Win 7 Ultimate 64
DualCore E5300, 2GB, Win 7 Ultimate 32
2 x Notebook, 2,4 GHz, 4GB, Win 7 Ultimate 64
3 x Netbook, Atom 1,6GHz, 2GB, Win 7 Ultimate 32
DJ-Apps
Numark Cue/Virtual DJ, Torq, Deckadance, PCDJ Dex/djDecks, Touch DVS, Cross, DVS Ultimate, Traktor Scratch Pro, Spin 2, Fruity Loops Producer
Interfaces
Audio 8 DJ, Omnitronic DDI 4x4, 2 x Maya 44 USB, Hercules DJ Console, M-Audio Conectiv, Virtual Vinyl Box, AmericanAudio VersaPort, U-Mix 44, 2 x Spin 2
Mixers
Behringer DDM 4000, DJX700, Numark DM 2002, Omnitronic DJ25, Behringer VMX-300
Turntables
2 x Stanton STR8-20 ;) , 2 x Stanton 500
2 x Numark TTX USB, 2 x Ortofon DJ
2 x Technics 1200, 2 x Ortofon Pro S
2 x Sync X.Trem 1, 2 x Ortofon Scratch
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Re: 1 Turntable mode, Beatmatch view

Postby Support@MixVibes on 10 Nov 2010, 12:39

Ok I have tested and the only one setup that is possible and useable is the setup of the pic2.

When I scratch or pitch, there is only one waveform that is moving accordingly BUT (and you're right) both waveform are zoomed/stretched what I think is a normal behavior (will see with the dev).
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