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allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 21 Apr 2012, 22:00
by John Wo_O
Here's what I would like to do which is something I think Cross should be able to do.

I'd like have to have FX Amount and FX On/Off assigned to the same Knob so that Fx is Off when Amount is = 0 and reciprocally, Fx is on when Amount > 0

I don't know if this is a special case among the whole MIDI mapping rules or if this is excluded due to how it has been implemented but I'd really like to be able to do that.

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 21 Apr 2012, 22:48
by daniel clark
:cool: :cool: have you tried to set up another mapping to work as such :idea: set up a dupliciate mapping and change the fx commands to try to get the effect you want :idea: you cant hurt any thing because you can delete the file if it is not right :idea: i think that would be taking options away from the DJ as to trigging a fx at a set level and the option of toggleing it on and off,,, :?: :?: :?: :cool:

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 21 Apr 2012, 23:19
by John Wo_O
I haven't thought of that.

but can 2 mappings for the same device be active/enabled at the same time?

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 21 Apr 2012, 23:26
by daniel clark
:cool: :cool: beyond my expertice and knowledge,,the U-Mix Control Pro has a button that controls the fx that also controls the selection of effect.. maybe a controller button with a pushon/off and a rotary action to control the volume :cool: :cool:,,the controller and the typ of accuators will probly give you this option by altering the mapping :cool: :cool:

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2012, 13:56
by BennyB
daniel clark wrote::cool: :cool: beyond my expertice and knowledge,,the U-Mix Control Pro has a button that controls the fx that also controls the selection of effect.. maybe a controller button with a pushon/off and a rotary action to control the volume :cool: :cool:,,the controller and the typ of accuators will probly give you this option by altering the mapping :cool: :cool:


The turn signal and the push signal is two different value and signal type, and two different parmeter, because it is an encoder.

YOu can assign a button to work as modifier, but only if you keep holding is (Modifier 1, and assing a button as a holder button).

Now you have a normal parameter and you have an another for the same button (or knob), if you don't or push the modifier button.

Check the attached picture for it.

But be careful... If you don'T select holder function, Cross will keep the Modifier on, nothing else will work :twisted:

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2012, 14:09
by daniel clark
:cool: :cool: just conversation and info ,,to achieve his outcome wouldnot the hardware be the main issue,,,or the easier solution,,,since in reality if he leaves the effects on then his volume control will increase/decrease it as he wants,,the only other thought is that the software be modified to turn on when it sees a input from the MIDI command other than 0,,dont have the info /knowledge to speak :mrgreen: just thinking outloud :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2012, 15:45
by BennyB
daniel clark wrote::cool: :cool: just conversation and info ,,to achieve his outcome wouldnot the hardware be the main issue,,,or the easier solution,,,since in reality if he leaves the effects on then his volume control will increase/decrease it as he wants,,the only other thought is that the software be modified to turn on when it sees a input from the MIDI command other than 0,,dont have the info /knowledge to speak :mrgreen: just thinking outloud :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Well, I see the point. It is not really possible :( Because it is the same parameter...

There is a way, but Cross might not detect it.

If you edit the .mappings file in notepad. I'll start thinking about that....

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2012, 16:40
by daniel clark
:cool: like i said not enuff knowledge on my part :cool: you would need something akin to a combination on/off with a potentiometer in a single control,,(hardware),,in the controller,,to be able to mapp it as he wants,,leaving the fx on and increasing/decreasing the volume will get the same outcome :idea:

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2012, 17:05
by daverudeboat
Hello,
it's about to put a toggle on a knob.....effect on/off+wet-dry...i seek a solution on my side....but i think it is not allowed....

Re: allow several command for the same MIDI input

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2012, 17:49
by daverudeboat
well,it's working on tractor.....I made a little MIDI map with the U-Mix Control Pro and use one knob to put the effect on and the wet-dry working together and activate the corresponding effect unit: 3 functions in one.....effect unit 2 button with mode hold
dry/wet knob with mode direct
effect 1 button with mode hold....
but i'am a little bit confused with Cross but still trying to find a solution