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Cross 3.0, Reloop TM4, Deck A, weird play/pause

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2014, 03:44
by kugmo
Current setup:
Samsung Ultra 5 (Intel i5), 4GB RAM 500GB HDD
Reloop Terminal Mix 4

Cross 2.6
Cross 3.0

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I've been using 2.x for some time (more than 6 months, latest version of Cross used was 2.6) with the Terminal Mix 4 on this laptop with no problems. Standard TM4 mapping used.
I installed Cross 3.0. I used the TM4 mapping shipped with it, and right away noticed weird jog behavior on deck A.

1. Loading a track on Deck A works as it should. Upon pressing Play, however, the track starts up like it was on an old school belt-driven, no-slipmat turntable. Imagine pressing Start on a turntable with the record trying to spin up to speed, that's what it sounds like. Pressing pause also shows same vinyl-like brake behavior.

2. Loading the same track on Deck B, startup is instantaneous, no problems at all

3. I exported the mapping used on 2.6 and loaded it onto 3.0. Same behavior on Deck A.

Mappings were not altered in any way.

Thinking that it may be a hardware issue, I loaded Cross 2.6, loaded the same track on A and B, used the same mapping.

This time, Deck A did NOT show the same behavior on 2.6 as it did on 3.0, so i guess hardware is not the issue.

Reloaded 3.0, same map file, then the same behavior (#1 above) happens again

Everything runs fine except for that odd jog behavior on Deck A with version 3.0. I was suspecting a brake time setting or a CD jog mapping, but default values looked clean (A and B map settings matched, and there was nothing mapped to Brake-related functions).

Please note, that under the controller's vinyl mode, everything works perfectly. It's just under CD mode where this happens (deck A having a vinyl-like play/pause behavior), and only on version 3.0

I'm not sure where else to look at or what to do to fix this. The controller did not show this Deck A behavior under 2.6. Am i looking at the wrong place? Please let me know what else to check.

Thanks!

Re: Cross 3.0, Reloop TM4, Deck A, weird play/pause

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2014, 12:58
by sylMV
Check the Start/Stop times of deck A in general preferences.

Re: Cross 3.0, Reloop TM4, Deck A, weird play/pause

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2014, 13:39
by kugmo
sylMV wrote:Check the Start/Stop times of deck A in general preferences.


Problem solved! It was a difference of the pointer being at the 8 o'clock position instead of the 7 o'clock (off) position. It's hard to tell the difference on a 13" laptop.

Thanks!

Re: Cross 3.0, Reloop TM4, Deck A, weird play/pause

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2014, 13:47
by sylMV
kugmo wrote:
sylMV wrote:Check the Start/Stop times of deck A in general preferences.


Problem solved! It was a difference of the pointer being at the 8 o'clock position instead of the 7 o'clock (off) position. It's hard to tell the difference on a 13" laptop.

Thanks!


Yup, these knobs are dramatically too small and not user friendly ... :neutral:

Re: Cross 3.0, Reloop TM4, Deck A, weird play/pause

PostPosted: 24 Jan 2014, 22:17
by kugmo
sylMV wrote:
kugmo wrote:
sylMV wrote:Check the Start/Stop times of deck A in general preferences.


Problem solved! It was a difference of the pointer being at the 8 o'clock position instead of the 7 o'clock (off) position. It's hard to tell the difference on a 13" laptop.

Thanks!


Yup, these knobs are dramatically too small and not user friendly ... :neutral:


I thought about it, too, but the aesthetic change suggestion might come out ugly, so i'll keep this snippet of information to myself :)

by the way, i just got back from a 6-hour straight set. tonight was one of the most perfect performances. Cross performed beautifully!