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Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 08:14
by kugmo
ive been testing win8 and Cross 2.1 (in a live environment - talk about taking risks), and here are some things i noticed:

#1. when creating fresh playlists, for some reason, the track listing does not change when scrolling through playlists. here's what i did: i marked some tracks, right-clicked and added them to a new playlist. i marked a few other tracks, then right-clicked and added them to another new playlist. i then tabbed over to the first new playlist and it showed the track listing. i scrolled over to the second new playlist and it still showed the track listing of the previous playlist. restarting the app solved it. *this only happens to new playlists. existing playlists do not seem to have this problem.

#2. very audible clicks when loading songs, whether pre-analysed or not.

other than that, Cross works well.

hardware: a 5-year old core 2 duo lenovo y450 with 4gb ram and a 240gb intel SSD, and a reloop digital jockey 3.
everything was running great under win7 and Cross with this hardware, so i am led to believe it could be OS and/or ASIO issues

Re: Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 08:34
by boc
nice report!

Re: Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 09:26
by kugmo
boc wrote:nice report!


by the way, i made sure that the signal and power lines were far apart, as i know that having these two intertwined would definitely cause some audio interferences.

win8 performed better than expected, as i was expecting a crash, actually. i increased the "challenge" later in the gig by loading a track that had not been pre-analysed (and had wrong bpm and gain values). although analysis was a bit slow (slightly over 10s on a 8m30s track), no glitches came up (except for the pop/click mentioned in previous post)

Re: Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 11:01
by Jim B
kugmo wrote:very audible clicks when loading songs, whether pre-analysed or not.


kugmo wrote:so i am led to believe it could be OS and/or ASIO issues


Very possible a ASIO issue. Try play around with the ASIO buffer sample rate

512 is a good sample size to start at ;)

Re: Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 13:12
by kugmo
Jim B wrote:
kugmo wrote:very audible clicks when loading songs, whether pre-analysed or not.


kugmo wrote:so i am led to believe it could be OS and/or ASIO issues


Very possible a ASIO issue. Try play around with the ASIO buffer sample rate

512 is a good sample size to start at ;)


thanks! i'll start with that, increasing latency, and giving the asio driver a higher system priority.

Re: Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 14:04
by boc
kugmo wrote:
Jim B wrote:
kugmo wrote:very audible clicks when loading songs, whether pre-analysed or not.


kugmo wrote:so i am led to believe it could be OS and/or ASIO issues


Very possible a ASIO issue. Try play around with the ASIO buffer sample rate

512 is a good sample size to start at ;)


thanks! i'll start with that, increasing latency, and giving the asio driver a higher system priority.

u mean.. decreasing the latency, right? :)

Re: Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 15:25
by kugmo
nope. increasing it at first, then decreasing it incrementally until i get audio glitches, then move the latency up a notch higher. that way, i get the optimal setting. latencies set too low are a major source of audio problems :)

Re: Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 15:33
by boc
kugmo wrote:nope. increasing it at first, then decreasing it incrementally until i get audio glitches, then move the latency up a notch higher. that way, i get the optimal setting. latencies set too low are a major source of audio problems :)

ok thats what i meant :)

Re: Cross 2.1 and Windows 8

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2012, 19:40
by Jim B
kugmo wrote:increasing it at first, then decreasing it incrementally until i get audio glitches, then move the latency up a notch higher. that way, i get the optimal setting. latencies set too low are a major source of audio problems :)


That sounds about right ;)