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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby vigman on 07 Dec 2014, 17:53

On my Toshiba laptop with one internal soundcard I believe the speakers are inactivated when the phones/lineout socket is used? Therefore it is impossible to use a USB deck and hear the master on speakers and cue in phones from Cross DJ even if trying two split mono outputs?

How does anyone use a USB deck with a laptop? An external soundcard?

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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby RoJeC on 07 Dec 2014, 20:22

Did you try anything of what I suggested? Spli mono uses only one of the outputs so either latop or external sc.

There's nothing special about your setup. But you need asio4all driver to be able to combine soundcards into one virtual sc.
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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby vigman on 10 Dec 2014, 17:51

RoJeC wrote:Did you try anything of what I suggested? Spli mono uses only one of the outputs so either latop or external sc.

There's nothing special about your setup. But you need asio4all driver to be able to combine soundcards into one virtual sc.


Apologise for delay in reply as I have been unwell since posting.

Yes, tried everything but with one internal laptop soundcard and one line/phones out socket, the laptop speakers are disabled when a phone jack is inserted?


Even with Asio4all installed and split mono set up surely there is no way sound can come out of the internal speakers AND the line out on a laptop at the same time as one overrides the other??

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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby RoJeC on 10 Dec 2014, 18:44

You are right. In the earlier post however you mentioned a USB output. That's what my answer is about.

For 5-10 €/$ you can get yourself a second output with a USB dongel/soundcard. In there you can plug the second output (speakers or headphone).

If you have headsets around it might even be that you have such a thing. (USB>3.5mm stereo jack in + out)

Here's an example (which I have as a backup in case my controller gives up) it's Dutch, but I guess you get the message..
https://www.new-line.nl/nl/geluidskaart ... _27720.htm
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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby vigman on 11 Dec 2014, 15:22

Thanks for the continued support, RoJec.

Yesterday I found an old pair of USB headphones and seemed to set up Asio4all to do what was necessary (ie cue to phones, master to speakers). However, even though the Asio4All setup looks correct I can get M and C output through phones AND speakers or phones OR speakers but have not managed to split the two yet.

I was going to use the Windows stereo mix option but I am using Vista on this laptop and it has not got the same options as it has in Windows 7
I'll keep playing until I get it.

I actually have a very complex audio and MIDI setup on my main music Windows 7 PC with multiple input and output devices and sequencers, which cause few problems, so I am not new to technical music production.

The gizmo you linked looks interesting

It just seems that the simple setup I require with a USB deck and MixvibesDJ is alluding me at present!

Thanks again, Vigman

PS My Asio4All interface doesn't have green lights anywhere, just a listing of inputs and outputs in a Windows tree type design where items can be chosen and illuminated or clicked off and greyed out?
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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby daniel clark on 11 Dec 2014, 15:43

:cool: clairfication ,, to be able to p f l ,,, you will need two sets of sound card outputs ,,or a multi channel sc ,, one set of s c outputs to process the master out and a second set to process the cue/monitor,, asio4all is a win based software to be able to combine the use of multiable sc :cool:
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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby vigman on 11 Dec 2014, 16:20

Thanks, Daniel. Yep I realise I am trying to get two out puts (laptop speakers to play Master) and USB phones to play Cue from only the one internal Realtek soundcard which is not multi channel!

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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby RoJeC on 11 Dec 2014, 16:45

Check you knob faders at right top. If Mix is full to right you get Main out to headphone. If left you only get Cue.

If this isn't it, please post a screen capture of
- asio4all
- audio tab
- Cross user interface

And most likely we'll get it sorted.
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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby vigman on 12 Dec 2014, 16:33

FINALLY......on my software, 2.6LE, the knob fader is centre top screen. There is no corresponding physical knob on my USB turntable and it had been impossible to rotate the knob with my laptop touchpad.

It was centrally set so I got both outputs through speakers and phones.

However I persevered and finally got the knob to move fully to the left and finally got main to speakers and cue to phones!!!!

Is there any way of assigning key strokes to this control to make it move easily? Or will I have to stick with cueing on B?

Also I do suddenly get sound distortion on the laptop speakers and even compete lockups with a repeated stutter. I've played with latency settings, limiters etc but I think it is Vista not handling the audio properly!?

Thanks everyone for help so far!!
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Re: Saving mixes and USB output query

Postby RoJeC on 12 Dec 2014, 16:49

vigman wrote:FINALLY......on my software, 2.6LE, the knob fader is centre top screen. There is no corresponding physical knob on my USB turntable and it had been impossible to rotate the knob with my laptop touchpad.

It was centrally set so I got both outputs through speakers and phones.

Hold "left mouse click" + move up/down (all knob faders turn by moving up/down)
However I persevered and finally got the knob to move fully to the left and finally got main to speakers and cue to phones!!!!

Is there any way of assigning key strokes to this control to make it move easily? Or will I have to stick with cueing on B?

Preferences | Keyboard; copy one (x2 button) and modify at wish...

Also I do suddenly get sound distortion on the laptop speakers and even compete lockups with a repeated stutter. I've played with latency settings, limiters etc but I think it is Vista not handling the audio properly!?

Not likely Vista or limiter related. Seems more like you have an FX (e.g. roll) or loop activated. Latency once set doesn't give this effect. In some occasions you might have some dropouts for specific tracks, which usually is resolved by a permanent minor increase. In Asio 256-512 is a common range. With 'good' devices lower is possible (my lowest device is 49, 1.1 ms)

Thanks everyone for help so far!!
Vigman

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