Cross 3.2 - Locators affecting pitch

[daniel clark]

just curious as to what you have the speed control at ,,mt,,,sp or hybrid ,, i think this might have some effect ,, but have overlooked asking this since you have said it wasnt acting this way in earlier versions ,,
you thought about posting a video might be a good one ,,

[gakto2009]

I know what you are saying and understand you as i have had this problem before. the problem is with the timecode modes "absolute" and "relitive".

Not that it is a problem or even a bug as such but more to do with the way each mode reacts to the shift in position of the track.

Give me a little time and ill set one of my decks up to refresh my memory and ill get back to you with the answer.

[dylanve]

Thanks for the responses.

I have mapped the locators to both a MIDI controller using an external editor (CrossMap), and I've also mapped them to the keyboard. Both behave the same way.

It seems like the increase in pitch is the same no matter what the pitch bend % is on the turntable, but I'll test this further.

Currently I've only done this in hybrid pitch mode, so I'll make sure I test the other modes too, as well as the difference between absolute and relative.

Daniel, unfortunately the 3 versions I tested all behaved the same way, so it's been like this for a while. A video would be a good idea, I 'll do that when I get the chance.

I'll post more details soon. Thanks again.

[daniel clark]

you have some good help ,, lets us know the outcome of your test/checking ,, trying to resolve this ,

[dylanve]

So I can confirm that it behaves the same was in all three pitch modes.

I've attached a video to show a few things:
- It behaves the same with either the keyboard or a MIDI controller.
- The pitch increases, not a whole lot, but as you can imagine it will knock a mix out of sync pretty quick.
- I've put the same track on both decks, at the same speed. After a few locators have been hit, they're both way out of sync.

Let me know what you guys think.

Here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdExKtq ... e=youtu.be

Regards.

[gakto2009]

I have successfully recreated this issue for myself and can confirm that unlike the previous issue, this does seem to be a bug of some sort.

My best guess would be that when the shift in location is triggered Cross is releasing sync with the timecode. As a result the pich looses stability when resyncing.

So far i have not found a realistic work around... other than dont use the tc vinyl when using realtime locator changes .

Ill pass all this information to the relevant department and hopefully see a fix for this in the next update...

Thank you for bringing this to our attention dylanve.

[dylanve]

I have successfully recreated this issue for myself and can confirm that unlike the previous issue, this does seem to be a bug of some sort.

My best guess would be that when the shift in location is triggered Cross is releasing sync with the timecode. As a result the pich looses stability when resyncing.

So far i have not found a realistic work around... other than dont use the tc vinyl when using realtime locator changes .

Ill pass all this information to the relevant department and hopefully see a fix for this in the next update...

Thank you for bringing this to our attention dylanve.

Great! Thanks for looking into it :-)

[gakto2009]

are you any good with MIDI mapping?

im sure it would be possible to map both the locator and sync commands to 1 mapping.

You would setup the locator control as normal, then add each locator buttons MIDI code to Sync with Master to the associated player.

Sorta like this.

locator_sync.PNG

This would allow you to use your locators and re sync at the same time.
Let me know how you get on, or if you need any help.

regards.

[dylanve]

are you any good with MIDI mapping?

im sure it would be possible to map both the locator and sync commands to 1 mapping.

You would setup the locator control as normal, then add each locator buttons MIDI code to Sync with Master to the associated player.

Sorta like this.

locator_sync.PNG

This would allow you to use your locators and re sync at the same time.
Let me know how you get on, or if you need any help.

regards.

The only problem is that I lose the vinyl control when sync is active, so I would have to switch off sync every time I wanted to use the vinyl. Unless it was set to 'toggle', but I'm guessing that would invert the sync command when sync is active before hitting a locator, which would probably cause a few problems.

I'm happy to wait until there is a fix, I can still spin tunes, I just need to be aware of it that's all.

Thanks for your help :-)