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New user, need some help!

Postby dylanve on 19 Jun 2014, 09:00

Hey guys, only have just started on Cross, loving it so far though.

Just wondering, is there anyway to stop Cross from adding a beat grid when I load a track? I have a rather large collection, and there are many tunes I have which I won't bother adding beat grids to. Is there anyone to turn this off?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: New user, need some help!

Postby RoJeC on 19 Jun 2014, 09:46

Hi Dylanve, Welcome to MixVibes,

No you can't turn it off. This is essential for using Cross. It helps to make Cross sound smooth.
You can batch select tracks in the collection and click on analyses to have this done in advance. This is highly recommended.

Several things are analyzed:
- beats/BPM for matching the mix (e.g. have samples run in the beat, same 'in the beat' for looping, searching)
- Gain: adjust value to have a standard volume (saved for each track, field default not visible). Using it can be switched of in preferences.
- Key for harmonic mixing

What you could do is create a (temp) playlist where you put in several 1000 'often used' tracks and run analysis from here.

If analyzed tracks load slow, you should exclude Cross folders from your anti-virus (e.g. analysis folder, collection folder, and optional tracks folder). Doing this is recommended anyhow, as it also avoids peak CPU load by the Anti Virus at the loading moments.. It is all about milliseconds there..
Ronald

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Manual alternative link: ? https://www.mixvibes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/cross-dj-user-manual.pdf
Audio dropouts? Increase audio 'buffer size' value.
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Soundcard not available/working? Try the 32bit version of Cross (is also installed).
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Re: New user, need some help!

Postby dylanve on 19 Jun 2014, 12:31

Hi RoJeC,

Thanks heaps for the quick reply. I understand why beat grids are so important, and I'll definitely spend a lot of time gridding most of my music.

However, I have a lot of old tunes which I use for weddings and stuff, instead of spending ages beat gridding them, I'd rather just treat them as normal songs, since I won't really be mixing them. I'd like to analyze them for gains, peaks etc, but not for beat grids. But unfortunately Cross always wants to put a grid in when one doesn't exist.

Not a huge deal, I can live with it. But it would be good to be able to disable the gridding on track load.
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Re: New user, need some help!

Postby DJ Vintage on 19 Jun 2014, 13:26

Hi,

Since the process is automatic, why not have your PC/laptop run for a night/day (depending on the amount of tracks) and just make a grid. It won't hurt your collection.

You still have to check the grids on the tracks you DO want to mix, but you can use all the automatically gridded tracks and treat them as "normal" tracks.

Hope that helps.
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Re: New user, need some help!

Postby RoJeC on 19 Jun 2014, 13:45

It does all the analysis in parallel, so it won't save noticable time (<1 sec per track).

It is less helpful in drifting beats. But every now and then it is going to help you. It takes 1 to 2 hours to do the analysis for these kind of tracks. You can basically do this unattended.
Worst case is you don't use it ever for a bunch. Advantage is that generally you can use a lot of it for mixing ever in the feature.

Don't know how it is with you, but I have about 99.9% of the gigs covered by appx. 3000 'older' tracks (>3years) and some more recent. And like 95% with only 1000.
The remaining % is in many cases covered by the >100k other tracks.
Ronald

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Manual alternative link: ? https://www.mixvibes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/cross-dj-user-manual.pdf
Audio dropouts? Increase audio 'buffer size' value.
FAQ iOS / Android / PC / MAC http://www.mixvibes.com/help/
Soundcard not available/working? Try the 32bit version of Cross (is also installed).
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Re: New user, need some help!

Postby dylanve on 20 Jun 2014, 01:52

RoJeC wrote:It does all the analysis in parallel, so it won't save noticable time (<1 sec per track).

It is less helpful in drifting beats. But every now and then it is going to help you. It takes 1 to 2 hours to do the analysis for these kind of tracks. You can basically do this unattended.
Worst case is you don't use it ever for a bunch. Advantage is that generally you can use a lot of it for mixing ever in the feature.

Don't know how it is with you, but I have about 99.9% of the gigs covered by appx. 3000 'older' tracks (>3years) and some more recent. And like 95% with only 1000.
The remaining % is in many cases covered by the >100k other tracks.


Yes that's very true. I've noticed that the grids do a pretty good job when they're done automatically too.

Thanks for your help!
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