Producer with Windows 7

[m3lvino]

Hi,

I'm having some serious issues trying to get MV Producer to run with Windows 7. Before I explain the numerous issues here is my config report:

Config Report:

Config 2009/12/01 22:17

OS= build=7600 processor=PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel
MixVibes Producer version=7.218 DLL langage=US version=7.210

System Setting
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Load in Ram Channel1= Yes Channel2= Yes
Load memory time limit=13 Load time=normal
Low gui priority=Yes Equalization bypass=No
MultiInstance=No

General Setting
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Nb Mixer Channels=2 Nb Samples=16
Windows Caption=No Theme=0
TAG V1=Yes TAG V2=Yes

Mix Setting
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AutoCue=Yes AutoGain=Yes AutoBpm at Load=Yes
Display Pitch=Yes Auto Match at load=No
Bpm Range min=78 max=150
Loop in bar boundaries=Yes Security=No History=Yes
Compressor=No Limiter=No

Sound Configuration
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Nb Sound=2 Nb Mixer=0
Managment Type ASIO
Device=M-Audio Delta ASIO AsioVersion=0 DriverVersion=5074
Latency=6 Driver sampling=44100 Nb Input=12 Nb Output=8
Managment Type ASIO
1-Analog Out 1/2 L Delta-44 2-Analog Out 1/2 R Delta-44
3-Analog Out 3/4 L Delta-44 4-Analog Out 3/4 R Delta-44

Vinyl Configuration
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Vinyl1 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=0:Analog In 1 Delta-44-Analog In 2 Delta-44
Mode=absolute
Riaa=No Preamp Left=46 db Preamp Right=47 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=Yes InverseLR=No PhaseInv=Yes
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=19.042 Volume max left=0.467 Volume max right=0.467 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.992 Speed Average(1s)=1.000 Speed Average(3s)=0.998


Vinyl2 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=2:Analog In 3 Delta-44-Analog In 4 Delta-44
Mode=absolute
Riaa=No Preamp Left=45 db Preamp Right=46 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=Yes InverseLR=No PhaseInv=No
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=16.540 Volume max left=0.002 Volume max right=0.002 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=1.000 Speed Average(1s)=0.974 Speed Average(3s)=0.976


Vinyl 3 not connected
Vinyl 4 not connected

OK, heres whats happening:

After setting everything up you load a tune and basically the Timecode quality starts dropping to the low 90's/high 80's and then drops further to between 45% -70%.

Obviously by then the sound starts to 'glitch/drop/cut' etc - general uselessness

I have an Intel P4 3GHZ and 3 gigs of ram along with a decent asus mobo etc so no problem there!

I've tried various versions of MV and Maudio have only just managed to release the driver for Windows 7 from the beta to the full version quite recently.

I am trying to work out what is causing my issue, Its either the driver or the MV version?

I know its one of these two factors, I have a dual boot config and I run MV version 7.010 with an older Maudio delta driver under XP SP3 with absolutely no issues what so ever!

I guess with my Dual boot config, its fine for now but would be nice to drop XP as this issue is the only reason I have not ditched XP completely.

If there is absolutely anything else you need to know please ask, or if anyone has had this issue and managed to solve it please let me know! Maybe a clue to the overall instability is when Im checking out other windows whilst mv is running, the sound is clicking and popping like a bowl of rice krispies I have a decent GFX card too (ATI 800XT Platinum - not the newest card on the block but is running on the most up to date drivers and was £300 a few years back - its still quite capable for basic task like that)

Finally one other really annoying thing on the latest version of Mixvibes under Windows 7 and this is on a par with it not actually working properly in terms of a high frustration factor...

WHY cant you grab a folder full of tunes and drop them in the Mediabase?? This is crazy!!! Only way to get music in is to right click then add music one file at a time or one file at a time using the explorer.....

I really hope you guys can give me some feedback

m3lvino

[UncleVibes]

WHY cant you grab a folder full of tunes and drop them in the Mediabase?? This is crazy!!! Only way to get music in is to right click then add music one file at a time or one file at a time using the explorer.....

right click on the folder in Mixvibes explorer & click scan, then your files are inside your media base.

I am trying to work out what is causing my issue, Its either the driver or the MV version?

Producer, DVS, Vfx, Cross are tested everyday on Windows7 without problems.
It seems you have some setup problems. Did you put windows property on preference to background service (Asio is a background service)
More to come about your other questions...

[UncleVibes]

I know its one of these two factors, I have a dual boot config and I run MV version 7.010 with an older Maudio delta driver under XP SP3 with absolutely no issues what so ever!

This is the first Producer release, a lot of bugs have been found since & corrected... (like the scan from Mixvibes explorer.)
I use also a dual boot & it works fine. In your config report I see that you use now version 7.218 & that's the good version before a new update soon (december?)

Maybe a clue to the overall instability is when Im checking out other windows whilst mv is running, the sound is clicking and popping like a bowl of rice krispies

You need to tune your computer. Which services are running? Msn? Wi-fi?

I have a decent GFX card too (ATI 800XT Platinum - not the newest card on the block but is running on the most up to date drivers and was £300 a few years back - its still quite capable for basic task like that)

I agree
Check the latency of your computer with DPC latency checker

dpclat.zip

dpclat.pdf

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[phadedvision]

Hi m3lvino,

I'm currently using Win7 (x64) without any issues. I just tried dropping a music folder into my mediabase and it works just fine. Do you have UAC on by any chance?

The clicks and pops are most likely caused by having too many things open. Have you tried using the ASIO4ALL drivers?

Hope this helps a bit,
Phaded

[UncleVibes]

I'm currently using Win7 (x64) without any issues. I just tried dropping a music folder into my mediabase and it works just fine. Do you have UAC on by any chance?

Right Johnny!
m3lvino you need to stop the UAC in windows user control panel in the configurations files before anything!

[abitmessie]

Im running Win7 Pro on my new laptop no issues and win7 Ultimate on my desktop no issues both are 32bit OS
of course the preformace is set to background services etc