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mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby jonbow on 27 Jan 2017, 16:30

Hi has mapping been done for Behringer BCD3000 for Cross 3.4.2 as I am unable to find it on the listing under controllers
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby RoJeC on 27 Jan 2017, 20:08

I just did a quick check. As far as I can see it has been asked many times and even users mentioned they were working on it. However I cannot find a topic that shows an uploaded mapping.

Unless there is a new model you have a fair chance of being able to do the mapping with the Cross MIDI editor.

If you want any help just ask for it. Likely FigDJ is able to point you in the right direction if you get stuck.

If you put in 30-60 minutes you probably have most common buttons working. Tweaking your faders tot the desired responsiveness may take a little more; so avoid spending to much time to fine tuning during the initial mapping.

If you have questions, please do also upload your mapping. FigDJ can help you easier by reading it.
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby jonbow on 28 Jan 2017, 17:28

Many thanks I will try much appreciated
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby jonbow on 20 Feb 2017, 12:08

Hi
I have tried to do the mapping but have not been successful then I read the following in the Behringer manual .

"Data request for all moving elements".
If the "Data request " command(demand for data) is sent from a suitable software application to the BCD 3000 as "control change" command (100) on a MIDI channel 1 the B CONTROL transmits its current control settings to the MIDI or DJ application .
This affects all knobs and faders apart from both wheels and buttons"
My question is simple how do I request the Cross software to send the "Data request " to start this procedure?
many thanks for your help
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby RoJeC on 21 Feb 2017, 17:03

NOt sure where you're trying to get started...

I guess you did not start in Cross... Preferences > MIDI
Select the BCD tab (if you only use 1 controller there's only 1).

Select e.g the CMD studio 4a of Behringer
Click x2 button to copy.
enter name etc.

Now using the options at the right you can map the controller. If you're lucky the controller is somewhat similar, if not you'll have to do some more buttons.
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby jonbow on 05 Mar 2017, 19:04

Thanks for information but sadly it does not answer my question which is How do I get the software to send a demand to the behringer to send data . There is nothing on the MIDI control list which provides this access or a BCD as you suggest .
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby RoJeC on 05 Mar 2017, 19:18

Maybe this post can help you some further

viewtopic.php?f=401&t=37678&p=214068&hilit=MIDI+status#p214068

(searched for 'MIDI status')
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby jonbow on 08 Mar 2017, 18:39

Ronald

read through all the info on the Denon mapping but sadly it makes no sense to me as a simpleton on mapping . Once again my question is "How do I get the software to send a message to Behringer to send data "? Many thanks
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby FigDJ on 08 Mar 2017, 19:15

jonbow wrote:Hi
I have tried to do the mapping but have not been successful then I read the following in the Behringer manual .

"Data request for all moving elements".
If the "Data request " command(demand for data) is sent from a suitable software application to the BCD 3000 as "control change" command (100) on a MIDI channel 1 the B CONTROL transmits its current control settings to the MIDI or DJ application .
This affects all knobs and faders apart from both wheels and buttons"
My question is simple how do I request the Cross software to send the "Data request " to start this procedure?
many thanks for your help


The mapping file contains input commands and it starts like this
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    <mappings>
      <input-mappings>

Following that is a series of commands from your controller to the software
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        <mapping>
          <events>
            <MIDI type="Note" parameter="0x43" channel="0x3"/>
          </events>
          <controls>
            <control alias="fam(Player)[0x2].PlayPause"/>
          </controls>
          <preset name="Toggler Button">
            <parameters>
              <parameter object="invert" key="on" value="off"/>
            </parameters>
          </preset>
        </mapping>

That means that when toggle button on address 43 channel 3 on the controller the software is going to PayPause.

Then it comes the output section which starts like this and in your case it will look like this
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      <output-mappings>
        <device-event name="StateRequest">
          <MIDI type="CC" parameter="0x100" channel="0x1" value="0x100"/>
        </device-event>

That command is from the software to the controller telling it to send the status of all controls and LEDs.

The one thing missing is the address or parameter in this case I just put 100 but that must be somewhere in the controller's documentation.

This command can not be mapped using MIDI learn. it must be typed in the mapping file and it must be the 1st command in the output section.

Hope that helps.
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Re: mapping for behringer BCD 3000

Postby jonbow on 09 Mar 2017, 16:12

Phew
many thanks I will try it all the best
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