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by djmagicmoments on 03 Feb 2014, 18:19
I will certainly try it... thanks much!
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by RoJeC on 03 Feb 2014, 18:48
I would suggest to give this topic a rest. The remaining issue is whether it is a 'Nice to have' or a 'Must Have'. Professionals differ on opinion as to this. With current Cue detection you can start any track without silence, straight in the beat at all times. With Cue on T=0 (or beat-x) many tracks will have silence as it is not default that audio (or audible level) starts here. The team knows. As in the past options come and go. The more options the harder to use it right. The team has proven to be really good at implementing features in a user friendly way. My personal thought is that this issue is a 'nice to have' as the work of a DJ basically is to spend a few seconds per track per gig, no matter what state is in; only the first time per track you have to spend another second. Don't try to be prettier than the bride.. (let's look back in a while and see what the team has ready in the next version versus the importance of this issue).
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by djmagicmoments on 03 Feb 2014, 20:19
Okay, my VERY last post on this subject. The remaining issue is whether it is a 'Nice to have' or a 'Must Have'. Professionals differ on opinion as to this.
We will just disagree. If you expect DJ's to leave a piece of software and come to Cross, you have to have BASIC things implemented. The ability to have the track start at the first detection of music is basic. VDJ does it, Traktor does it, PCDJ does it... So, we will just respectfully disagree. My personal thought is that this issue is a 'nice to have' as the work of a DJ basically is to spend a few seconds per track per gig, no matter what state is in; only the first time per track you have to spend another second.
As a wedding DJ, the last thing you want to do is to worry about cueing a track. Sure, you only do it once but if you forget, welcome the trainwreck. And sure, I could manually cue 58,000 tracks... Again, LOVE the software and am dedicated to it. My suggestions are not complaints, they are not ridicules, they are not to grab attention... are any of the Beta Testers or Moderators 100% wedding DJ's? If not, you would have never even know that this is important to wedding DJ's. That is my point. I am not saying those who do a wedding here or there.... I do nearly 100 a year and network with 100's of others who are ALL trying this program. Okay... done. You have heard the suggestions from a wedding DJ. Like I said, if this is not for wedding DJ's too, let me know so I can move on. (let's look back in a while and see what the team has ready in the next version versus the importance of this issue).
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by RoJeC on 03 Feb 2014, 21:08
years ago this was one of the user options in a mixvibes product; they know what they changed from.... autocue.png
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by Deuce Boogaloo on 20 Nov 2014, 19:51
Tech Support,
I am a Salsa music DJ. Some Salsa DJs mix. But, most that DJ for the "hardcore" Salsa crowd do not. We prefer approx. 2 secs of silence between songs. This is true in Argentine Tango, and I imagine so in a number of other "social dances."
While manual cueing is not difficult as a process taken individually. It is an interruption to workflow, not present in Traktor or Serator, to do so. And, is just one more variable, that can increase the chance of "Murphy's" intervention. And, as the OP said, recuing a large library manually is definitely additional work. Some of us like to have our music (e.g. cues) prepared ahead of time.
Having tested Serato, Traktor, MIXXX and VDJ. For me, the ONLY reason that I've gone back to Traktor is because of the inability to disable the load-at-first-cue part of the program. I like your interface, stability, browser functions, controller integration, price, and just about everything else, much better than the aforementioned software packages.
I think that there are more non-electronica/mixing DJs that would shift to this program if there were an option to disable the load-at-first-cue; more than you suspect.
As of tonight's gig, I'm only using Traktor because of the lack of that function. I'm sure that I'm not alone in this.
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by Deuce Boogaloo on 20 Nov 2014, 19:51
Tech Support,
I am a Salsa music DJ. Some Salsa DJs mix. But, most that DJ for the "hardcore" Salsa crowd do not. We prefer approx. 2 secs of silence between songs. This is true in Argentine Tango, and I imagine so in a number of other "social dances."
While manual cueing is not difficult as a process taken individually. It is an interruption to workflow, not present in Traktor or Serator, to do so. And, is just one more variable, that can increase the chance of "Murphy's" intervention. And, as the OP said, recuing a large library manually is definitely additional work. Some of us like to have our music (e.g. cues) prepared ahead of time.
Having tested Serato, Traktor, MIXXX and VDJ. For me, the ONLY reason that I've gone back to Traktor is because of the inability to disable the load-at-first-cue part of the program. I like your interface, stability, browser functions, controller integration, price, and just about everything else, much better than the aforementioned software packages.
I think that there are more non-electronica/mixing DJs that would shift to this program if there were an option to disable the load-at-first-cue; more than you suspect.
As of tonight's gig, I'm only using Traktor because of the lack of that function. I'm sure that I'm not alone in this.
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by jaamrode on 21 Nov 2014, 06:28
Sorry if this is incorrect, I am a bit of a newbie. Can't Cross import libraries with the cue points set from traktor or vdj? If you like everything else about Cross but you like how traktor or vdj sets the cue points better, why not let vdj analyze the cue points then import the library into Cross?
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