Denon MCX8000 Mapping

[FigDJ]

I have now managed the basic platter operation, but the pitch value/pitch fader just behaves crazy with all combination I try I can not get the centre values.

The behavior you described is typical when trying to map a 14 bit fader into normal 8 bit MIDI. To fix this the fader must be mapped in 14 bits.

Make sure 14 bits is turned on the MIDI section of Cross.
Take a look at the MIDI table listing for your controller.
The address listed is the 1st address of the 14 bit range.
This address must be reserved as 14 bit map.

To do it. Just look at the map for the DDJ-SX. It also uses 14 bit faders for pitch Of course the address number may be different but the example for the command syntax is the same.

[Activated Soundwave]

Thank you FigDJ, Much appreciated, gives me something to work on now, I had tried that before and it did not seem to make any difference, but now you mention this, I can go at this again as it was most defiantly my error the first time around.

[Activated Soundwave]

I am saddened that I may now have to seriously start moving in the direction of Serato as it is clearly not possible to get even a basic function mapping for MCX8000 up and running.

My DDJ-SX (Gold Limited Edition) is in the process of being sold. Once it is gone I will have to move my MCX8000 to be my actual work controller (I still take the SX while I have it, just to be able to play with Cross).

I don't care(for now) if the screens are working or not, I don't mind the lights around the jogs not working. I just want basic functionality of all transport buttons, jogs, pitch-faders, FX buttons, EQ, faders, well, you get my drift.

I really love this controller, it's a mobile DJ's wet dream The only thing that can make it better (apart from the cue lights brightness being higher in contrast between on and off) would be if I could use it with Mixvibes and not have to move over to Serato.

It's a move I don't want to make, but due to the amount of work needed to make it happen, I doubt I would ever come back to Cross once I move to Serato.

Oh well, there is an irony here. I came to Cross when I left Traktor because my MC6000 wasn't supported by Serato and WAS fully supported by Cross. Now that I want to move from my DDJ-SX which is fully supported to Cross to my MCX8000, it's Cross that no longer provides the necessary support.

So, if ANYONE has something useful to report about a basic mapping that will allow me to use the MCX8000 with slightly limited (unimportant details and screens) functionality with Cross, please let me know. My heart is aching with the thought of leaving my beloved Cross and getting acquainted with (yet) another software platform.

I should be able to do all the basic now, just give until the end of this next new week at the latest, as I really need all the basics and sampler section etc, just wont be able to do light etc, I have done a very basic one that is almost useable in a live situation, but need to do some tweaks and then work on secondary functions for the pads, but hot cues are easy enough and done.

All I suggest is that keep your library for both Cross and Serato upto date/matched location etc and then their is no harm in switching back and too, until Cross is better suited for you once again it will be I think, so many things going for Cross it is one to keep an eye on for the obvious reasons if you have used this in enough depth to see its advantages and where it could possible head in the future. Serato is so cluttered and despite its mirage of things it is missing stupid things I find astoundingly obvious, getting sets together with tracks you have forgotten or are new or unfamiliar with can be a long winded affair I find and it just kills my flow having to drag each track in to preview just kills its, fundamentally I think they are always going to have the hiphop djs and scratch djs in mind before the Mixers mixer, even the EQ is rough their are no fine tuning settings for important things, on these grounds Cross is the one I choose over all, its just a bit of a waiting game at present, but I am guessing things will pick up next year.

As soon as I get a mapping tweaked I will get it posted.

[Activated Soundwave]

Iam getting their with a usuable mapping just need a little more time hoping it will be tested and tweaked enough by next week, I will succeed with somthing very much usable just have a couple or areas that need figuring out pitch fader value is tricky also strip search and the pad for sampler etc but all basic done apart from those. But I will persist even if I have to tweak all like a combination lock lol. Their will be a mapping to keep us going until it can get offical mapping.

[FigDJ]

Do you have a MIDI map documentation table from the manufacturer?

[DJ Vintage]

http://www.denondj.com/images/uploads/D ... t_v1.0.pdf

[FigDJ]

After looking at the table that DJ Vintage provided (thanks for that). Activated Soundwave you should map the touch strip to the smartseek command. it will work then. if you are willing to test I can map all the advanced functions. It is pretty straight forward for me with the table that DJ Vintage provided I just don't have the controller to test. Post what you have already and we can go from there forward.

[DJ Vintage]

I am willing to help test if need be as I also have the MCX8000

[Activated Soundwave]

Just need a little bit longer as I messed up some of my mapping trying to Set the Pad Banks up on the MCX as they don't seem to act like other controllers no matter what I try the pads will only assign once despite trying a mod for the pad function button or as usual when you switch to another pad function button despite each having its own cc they are not on their own MIDI ch so basically I can only get 1x8 pads per deck, and the platters are not 100% calibrated/setup correctly they work okay but a little too fast and I think the setting may be causing a few bugs in relation to other mapping glitches sometimes something's will just stop working so could be my platter setting, but that I am guessing.

Going at it today 17 and by the end of the 18th I will send you what I got so far.

Out of curiosity where are you based FigDJ I am in the UK, Just pondering on if I could post it out too you for a month or so or just as long as is needed. Probably unlikely as I am skint at present, but just out of curiosity ? as this controller has proved much more tricky for me as suppose a Pioneer ddjsx I experimented with and various controllers before that.

[Activated Soundwave]

Proving Tricky its not like other controllers despite my limited understanding their are some things that just don't do like with other controllers, Trying everything threw elimination but its a tedious job with no 100% Guarantee results.

I have tried learning about what you mention and the MIDI address etc, but nothing really helps me learn about and maths is a sore point with me, where do you learn about this king of stuff, I know all the basics and enough to get me buy with my production setup, but this DJ controller is out of my league until I better understand,

IS their any online info that will break the learning process down instead of jumping into numbers without really explaining what each is for so to speak. ? or referring to other MIDI stuff that is not related to this situation.

Just a thought for Mixvibes
Personally I wish a controller company would take on Cross DJ, after all how many users does Cross have surely that is a bargaining point that would expand with a dedicated controller of decent quality etc. And a few extra additions/controls that you just do not see on the basic controller layout, especially the Monitor and preview section and extra buttons or even a few MIDI faders for extra effects control methods cutting in and blending or flipping etc. With possibilities to also use for the samplers deeper controls, a little more though into the controller layout etc. we need new blood, I know the new Roland controller is trying new things some good ideas but not perfect, us Cross users need some serious attention and a one stop future proofed controller, it can be done, with option to plug in new control modules for expansion if need be, I don't mind a second of third controller added to an existing if need be in the future, we just want to enjoy this great software to the max, it could be a contender if mixvibe starts to lead with its ideas, after all it could not flop like M-audios cheap controller lol. Maybe one day, wish I was rich I would well put money into this and mixvibes. Keep at it guys I would prefer to use Cross for my life and pass on learning to others, and that includes at present with a few more improvements and my controller working perfect I would push this software all over and spread the word, I don't know if anyone can see how great this could be.

Thanks.