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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 22 Nov 2016, 23:12

Here you go,
I have also included my 4 deck mapping, just about done think i left a few beatgrid control assignments of deck 4,
will still be adding to this tomorrow and i can post what i have late afternoon uk time.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby FigDJ on 23 Nov 2016, 16:40

Activated Soundwave wrote:Here you go,
I have also included my 4 deck mapping, just about done think i left a few beatgrid control assignments of deck 4,
will still be adding to this tomorrow and i can post what i have late afternoon uk time.

Test 1(MCX8000).zip


OK what the test revealed and perhaps my instructions were not sufficiently clear.

What do we know so far. Which is already inn the documentation.

Player 1 Mode CUE
Pad 1= parameter 14 Channel 5
S+ Pad1 =parameter 1c channel 5
Pad 2= parameter 15 Channel 5
S+ Pad 2 =parameter 1d channel 5
Pad 3= parameter 16 Channel 5
S+ Pad 3 =parameter 1e channel 5
Pad 4= parameter 17 Channel 5
S+ Pad 4 =parameter 1f channel 5
Pad 5= parameter 18 Channel 5
S+ Pad 5 =parameter 20 channel 5
Pad 6= parameter 19 Channel 5
S+ Pad 6 =parameter 21 channel 5
Pad 7= parameter 1a Channel 5
S+ Pad 7 =parameter 22 channel 5
Pad 8= parameter 1b Channel 5
S+ Pad 8 =parameter 23 channel 5

Player 2 Mode CUE
is the same as player 1 except that it uses channel 6
Player 3 Mode CUE
is the same as player 1 except that it uses channel 7
Player 4 Mode CUE
is the same as player 1 except that it uses channel 8

Now the alternate CUE mode for each player could be activated in one of possible 2 ways.
1. By pressing the CUE mode button for a second time, or
2. By pressing the combination of Shift+CUE mode buttons
Which of this 2 ways is used I don't know.

Based in the documentation I suspect is the 1st one.

The way to find out is by trying to enter the alternate CUE mode using the 1st method listed above and then using MIDI learn to
map Pad #1 to a known command Ex. locator1
map S+ Pad #1 to a known command Ex. locator1clear

If the resulting map yields different parameter but same channel as the following:
Player 1 Mode CUE
Pad 1= parameter 14 Channel 5
S+ Pad1 =parameter 1c channel 5

We found the starting address of the layer and I can figure out the rest. Further test will be needed to find additional starting addresess.

If the results yields the same parameter and channel then perhaps
there is no alternate CUE mode (which will make mapping still doable but more complex) or we did not entered alternate CUE mode correctly.
To find out which, we must try the 2nd method (Shift + CUE mode button.
map Pad #1 to a known command Ex. locator1
map S+ Pad #1 to a known command Ex. locator1clear

If the results yields a different parameter then we found it . If not then I must use a combination of mod(ShiftLogic1) to mod(ShiftLogic9) in combination with mod(ShiftSelector).

In the worst case we must use the following
Player 1
Cue Mode= Normal
Flip Bank Mode = Don't know
Cue Loop Mode (Second Press) = Shifted
Roll Mode = mod(ShiftLogic1)
Saved Loop Mode (Second Press) = Shifted mod(ShiftLogic1)
Slicer Mode = mod(ShiftLogic2)
Slicer Loop Mode (Second Press) = Shifted mod(ShiftLogic2)
Sampler Mode = mod(ShiftLogic3)
Vel. Sampler Mode (Second Press) = Shifted mod(ShiftLogic3)

mod(ShiftLogic4)= Switch to player 3

Player 2
Cue Mode= Normal
Flip Bank Mode = Don't know
Cue Loop Mode (Second Press) = Shifted
Roll Mode = mod(ShiftLogic5)
Saved Loop Mode (Second Press) = Shifted mod(ShiftLogic5)
Slicer Mode = mod(ShiftLogic6)
Slicer Loop Mode (Second Press) = Shifted mod(ShiftLogic6)
Sampler Mode = mod(ShiftLogic7)
Vel. Sampler Mode (Second Press) = Shifted mod(ShiftLogic7)

mod(ShiftLogic8)= Switch to player 4

mod(ShiftLogic9)= Shift operations on both sides.

The use of shift logic should be avoided as much as possible because using shift logic exponentially increases files sizes, loading times, and complexity.

In order to avoid shift logic as much as possible and since I don't have the controller available is why I asked for the testing.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 23 Nov 2016, 17:35

Just going over this data, be as quick as I can to reply, however I did follow the last instruction correctly, it took me several attempt with loosing concentration as to where I was at, but in the end I got it done accurately, the instruction where straight forward.

I may have a couple of questions, back shortly.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 23 Nov 2016, 17:42

Okay I understand so far all up to where you mention
#1 to a known command Ex ? is their a different way to explain what this is ? point me in the right direction.

again thanks for all this effort, I can but try my best.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby FigDJ on 23 Nov 2016, 18:00

Activated Soundwave wrote:Okay I understand so far all up to where you mention
#1 to a known command Ex ? is their a different way to explain what this is ? point me in the right direction.

again thanks for all this effort, I can but try my best.


Based on what you send me before we both know how to map Hotcues also known as locators.

We also know that pads are numbered in the following order.
1234
5678

If for every mode you map the same command that we are both familiar with to
number #1 pad to locator1
Shift + number one pad to locator1 clear
Then on the results I don't need to care about the command itself, just what parameter# and channel number# to see if there is a change.

For every mode the pad number stays the same (only using pad1)and the commands stay the same(only using locator1 and locator1clear). For every pad #1 in every mode there should be a change in parameter which is the starting address for that block.

basically eliminating all variables but the one that is being tested.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 23 Nov 2016, 18:03

Just to clear this up what is the hash # symbol representing.
also
If for every mode you map the same command that we are both familiar with i don't get that bit.

If I can understand this and you can then explain the next test you want to do if this is not what you mean in this!
then I can crack on, but probably best for me to get stuck into this again on Monday, but that I not to say if I understand this I wont be able to find time over the weekend that I will have to see as my weekend happens.
thanks
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby FigDJ on 23 Nov 2016, 18:42

Activated Soundwave wrote:Just to clear this up what is the hash # symbol representing.
also
If for every mode you map the same command that we are both familiar with i don't get that bit.

If I can understand this and you can then explain the next test you want to do if this is not what you mean in this!
then I can crack on, but probably best for me to get stuck into this again on Monday, but that I not to say if I understand this I wont be able to find time over the weekend that I will have to see as my weekend happens.
thanks


The symbol # means number

when I say Pad# 1 it is the same as saying Pad number 1. I am referring to the order of the pads numbering.
1234
5678.

When I get you file I go into the code.
if the commands all look the same then I only need to search for parameter changes.

The test should go like this
SET CUE MODE by pressing the button

Map locator1 to pad number 1
map locator1clear to S+pad number 1

Change mode by pressing CUE mode button again
Map locator1 to pad number 1
map locator1clear to S+pad number 1

Change mode by pressing ROLL mode button
Map locator1 to pad number 1
map locator1clear to S+pad number 1

Change mode by pressing ROLL mode button again
Map locator1 to pad number 1
map locator1clear to S+pad number 1

and so on for every mode.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 23 Nov 2016, 21:12

[/quote]but probably best for me to get stuck into this again on Monday, but that I not to say if I understand this I wont be able to find time over the weekend that I will have to see as my weekend happens.
thanks[/quote]

Ignore this part, I was thinking it was Friday tomorrow, excuse this I am a bit under the weather as they say, I have good days and bad, health wise.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 23 Nov 2016, 21:14

FigDJ wrote:
Activated Soundwave wrote:Just to clear this up what is the hash # symbol representing.
also
If for every mode you map the same command that we are both familiar with i don't get that bit.

If I can understand this and you can then explain the next test you want to do if this is not what you mean in this!
then I can crack on, but probably best for me to get stuck into this again on Monday, but that I not to say if I understand this I wont be able to find time over the weekend that I will have to see as my weekend happens.
thanks


The symbol # means number

when I say Pad# 1 it is the same as saying Pad number 1. I am referring to the order of the pads numbering.
1234
5678.

When I get you file I go into the code.
if the commands all look the same then I only need to search for parameter changes.

The test should go like this
SET CUE MODE by pressing the button

Map locator1 to pad number 1
map locator1clear to S+pad number 1

Change mode by pressing CUE mode button again
Map locator1 to pad number 1
map locator1clear to S+pad number 1

Change mode by pressing ROLL mode button
Map locator1 to pad number 1
map locator1clear to S+pad number 1

Change mode by pressing ROLL mode button again
Map locator1 to pad number 1
map locator1clear to S+pad number 1

and so on for every mode.


The symbol # means number - I new that but thought it may have some other meaning to do with coding, sorry just me thinking too much into that lol.
Okay soo same as before, thanks.
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Re: Denon MCX8000 Mapping

Postby Activated Soundwave on 23 Nov 2016, 21:51

Here is a semi working 4 deck mapping that will get you going, but bare in mind no lights, Platters now working well enough to use, but pitch and strip search is yet to be sorted, most things are working and as long as you use sync and don't go from one extreme pitch to another then all is usable.

If you go into the MIDI mapping section you will see their what does what for now, when finished whole mapping I will do a full write up on this.

Have fun, ps Key ajustments are also working - see MIDI mapping, as far as the preview and pre listening goes its your controller not the gui interface, make sure you are set to duel stereo and you will have to ajust the cue and mix controls in Gui to taste / until you get the right/preferred balance in your headphones ( Think its Gui cue all way left), I will add the best setting tomorrow, in a bit of a rush at this moment in time and not got Cross open.

But please do not play out until mapping is fully tested etc.
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