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cant get a steady signal from timecode cds

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 16:06
by Fant0m
hi,

i connected my two Reloop rmp2 with a m-audio audiophile to my laptop (HP dv somethingsomething).
One CD Player is connected to the normal audio input, the other is connected to the s/pdif input.
But mixvibes cant get a steady signal from the CD Players. it just gets a little signal when i use the installation wizard and seems to freeze this. i added a screenshot which shows the configscreen. there is a graph, but the quality of the signal is 0%.

and here is my config report:

Config 2010/03/14 15:05

OS= build=7600 processor=PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=AMD64 Family 15 Model 104 Stepping 2, AuthenticAMD
MixVibes Producer version=7.218 DLL langage=DE version=7.210

System Setting
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Load in Ram Channel1= Yes Channel2= Yes
Load memory time limit=13 Load time=normal
Low gui priority=No Equalization bypass=No
MultiInstance=No

General Setting
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Nb Mixer Channels=2 Nb Samples=16
Windows Caption=No Theme=3
TAG V1=Yes TAG V2=No

Mix Setting
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AutoCue=Yes AutoGain=Yes AutoBpm at Load=Yes
Display Pitch=Yes Auto Match at load=No
Bpm Range min=78 max=150
Loop in bar boundaries=Yes Security=No History=Yes
Compressor=No Limiter=No

Sound Configuration
--------------------
Nb Sound=1 Nb Mixer=0
Managment Type ASIO
Device=M-Audio FireWire ASIO AsioVersion=0 DriverVersion=5058
Latency=12 Driver sampling=44100 Nb Input=4 Nb Output=6
Managment Type ASIO
1-FW AP Analog Out 1/2 L 2-FW AP Analog Out 1/2 R

Vinyl Configuration
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Vinyl1 connected=CD
Audio=ASIO source=0:FW AP Analog In 1-FW AP Analog In 2
Mode=absolute
Riaa=No Preamp Left=0 db Preamp Right=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=No PhaseInv=No
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=0.000 Volume max left=0.000 Volume max right=0.000 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.000 Speed Average(1s)=0.000 Speed Average(3s)=0.000


Vinyl2 connected=CD
Audio=ASIO source=2:FW AP SPDIF In L-FW AP SPDIF In R
Mode=absolute
Riaa=No Preamp Left=0 db Preamp Right=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=No PhaseInv=No
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=0.000 Volume max left=0.000 Volume max right=0.000 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.000 Speed Average(1s)=0.000 Speed Average(3s)=0.000


Vinyl 3 not connected
Vinyl 4 not connected





please help =)

Re: cant get a steady signal from timecode cds

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 17:28
by Marxon
Hi FantOm!

Das hier hab ich im Manual der Audiophile gefunden,
vieleicht ist das die Ursache?

HINWEIS:Sobald der S/PDIF-Eingang aktiviert wird,setzt Audiophile
USB voraus,dass ein digitales Signal über diesen Eingang gesendet
wird.Das Gerät versucht dann,die Samplefrequenz dieses Signals zu
übernehmen.Wenn bei aktiviertem S/PDIF-Eingang kein digitales
Signal übertragen wird bzw.das digitale Signal nicht erkannt oder als
ungültig eingestuft wird,kann Audiophile USB nicht korrekt
funktionieren.In diesem Fall erfolgt zwar eine Wiedergabe,allerdings
nicht mit der richtigen Samplefrequenz bzw.Geschwindigkeit.


Aktiviere mal nur den analogen Eingang, wird der Timecode dann erkannt?

Mfg Marxon

Re: cant get a steady signal from timecode cds

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 18:00
by Marxon
Sorry here in english:

i found this in the manual:
maybee this is the problem

NOTE:Whenever S/PDIF Input is selected as an Active Port,the
Audiophile is expecting a digital signal at that port and to lock to
the sample rate of that signal.When S/PDIF Input is selected and
there is no signal present at the S/PDIF Input port,or the S/PDIF
signal is not recognized or invalid,the Audiophile USB will not
operate properly.Most likely,you will hear audio from the
Audiophile,but it will be running at an odd sample rate and sound
like it is playing at the wrong speed.


is the timcode correct if u use only the analog input?
is your S/pdif connection in general working?
try to record something with an external app for testing.

rgds marxon

Re: cant get a steady signal from timecode cds

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 18:49
by Fant0m
it works with the audioport and one cd player
and the s/pdif connection is working. at least the driver gets a signal.
i will try to record something, but maybe i will just be able to record something at the next weekend.

thanks for your help!
greetz

Re: cant get a steady signal from timecode cds

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 18:58
by Stealthii
Click on the button at the bottom that shows you the circle diagram. The main guess here is that the input volume is too loud on any number of things, and the sound is getting clipped / digitally distorted. For your setup, it could be any of the following:
    1. The Reloop CDJ distorts audio above a certain range (unlikely)
    2. The Reloop outputs a clear, high voltage audio signal which is being clipped by your audio interface (likely - have no amplification on the sound card active at all)

Re: cant get a steady signal from timecode cds

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 21:29
by Fant0m
i tried it with a maya44 today and everything worked fine. so its something fishy with my m-audio. to bad, im not at home for the next five days, so i will try and fix this next weekend.

thanks for all your help!