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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby melkker on 18 May 2009, 18:49

Yes they are in phono position.

I did not quite clearely understand what you asked for, but u46mk2 version is 1.0.41 or f/w 2.2.3
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby UncleVibes on 19 May 2009, 09:34

Sound Configuration
--------------------
Nb Sound=2 Nb Mixer=0
Managment Type ASIO
Device=MIXVIBES U46MK2 ASIO AsioVersion=0 DriverVersion=2
Latency=3 Driver sampling=44100 Nb Input=4 Nb Output=6
Managment Type ASIO
1-L:U46DJ 1/2 2-R:U46DJ 1/2
3-L:U46DJ 3/4 4-R:U46DJ 3/4

Crackles come with a latency too low of the sound card, set your sound card to 256 samples for this setup (6ms). Your computer is loosing the syncro with the audio data.

Which type of turntables do you have? Are they in phono riaa or line output?
They don't seem to be well detected.
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby melkker on 19 May 2009, 11:56

Hi,

I will try with the 256 sample version today evening, maybe it has some improvement now. I have tried every sample rate and every possibility before.
Yesterday I played for a few hours and after approximately a hour it did not make any sudden overruns or delays(like computer gets sudden overload and after that starts to compensate and speeds up the soundfile. Something similar to watching movies from slow computer, picture is running fast to meet the sound.).
Maybe there are some programs on startup, that does not communicate well with mixvibes or uses same resources and after some use they relax.

I have Numark TT200-s, they are RCA phono
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby melkker on 19 May 2009, 16:18

I just tried with 256smpl rate. As I thought, no difference at all, maybe for the worse. Because these crackles are present and sound gets really crackly and speeds track up for some moments.
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby UncleVibes on 19 May 2009, 16:37

set your vinyl options preamp to 4db both sides. click on apply
Publish again a config report you don't have a good reception of codes or the setup fail.
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby melkker on 19 May 2009, 17:06

Config Report:
Config 2009/05/19 17:50

OS=Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 build=2600 processor=PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 17 Model 3 Stepping 1, AuthenticAMD
MixVibes DVS version=7.218 DLL langage=US version=7.210

System Setting
--------------------
Load in Ram Channel1= Yes Channel2= Yes
Load memory time limit=13 Load time=normal
Low gui priority=Yes Equalization bypass=No
MultiInstance=No

General Setting
--------------------
Nb Mixer Channels=2 Nb Samples=16
Windows Caption=No Theme=3
TAG V1=Yes TAG V2=No

Mix Setting
--------------------
AutoCue=Yes AutoGain=Yes AutoBpm at Load=Yes
Display Pitch=Yes Auto Match at load=No
Bpm Range min=78 max=150
Loop in bar boundaries=Yes Security=No History=Yes
Compressor=No Limiter=No

Sound Configuration
--------------------
Nb Sound=2 Nb Mixer=0
Managment Type ASIO
Device=MIXVIBES U46MK2 ASIO AsioVersion=0 DriverVersion=2
Latency=6 Driver sampling=44100 Nb Input=4 Nb Output=6
Managment Type ASIO
1-L:U46DJ 1/2 2-R:U46DJ 1/2
3-L:U46DJ 3/4 4-R:U46DJ 3/4

Vinyl Configuration
--------------------
Vinyl1 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=0:L:U46DJ 1/2-R:U46DJ 1/2
Mode=absolute
Riaa=Yes Preamp Left=4 db Preamp Right=4 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=Yes PhaseInv=No
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=0.500 Volume max left=0.000 Volume max right=0.000 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.000 Speed Average(1s)=0.000 Speed Average(3s)=0.000


Vinyl2 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=2:L:U46DJ 3/4-R:U46DJ 3/4
Mode=absolute
Riaa=Yes Preamp Left=4 db Preamp Right=4 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=Yes PhaseInv=Yes
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=93.199 Volume max left=1.359 Volume max right=1.359 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.999 Speed Average(1s)=1.002 Speed Average(3s)=1.001
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby UncleVibes on 19 May 2009, 17:59

so what?
make a snapshot of the vinyl options view...

Vinyl Configuration
--------------------
Vinyl1 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=0:L:U46DJ 1/2-R:U46DJ 1/2
Mode=absolute
Riaa=Yes Preamp Left=4 db Preamp Right=4 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=Yes PhaseInv=No
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=0.500 Volume max left=0.000 Volume max right=0.000 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.000 Speed Average(1s)=0.000 Speed Average(3s)=0.000



Vinyl2 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=2:L:U46DJ 3/4-R:U46DJ 3/4
Mode=absolute
Riaa=Yes Preamp Left=4 db Preamp Right=4 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=Yes PhaseInv=Yes
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=93.199 Volume max left=1.359 Volume max right=1.359 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.999 Speed Average(1s)=1.002 Speed Average(3s)=1.001


in green what is ok
in red what is wrong (no detection of time code)
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby melkker on 19 May 2009, 18:18

thank you for pointing out the problem, but what should I do to fix it?
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby UncleVibes on 19 May 2009, 18:27

see if the problem occurs if you plug deck2 in place of deck1
Vinyl options:
See also if you need to check the combo box inv phase. (click apply each time)
If the same problem appears with no solution then it's your turntable in question...
I am sorry it's all I can do with the elements I got. Check that the incoming signal doesn't saturate in the vinyl options. Check also the mixer of your sound card.
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Re: Very poor sound quality

Postby melkker on 19 May 2009, 18:51

I got these numbers now to appear
I did not know you have to make the conf report with both tables playing.

Config Report:
Config 2009/05/19 19:31

OS=Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 build=2600 processor=PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 17 Model 3 Stepping 1, AuthenticAMD
MixVibes DVS version=7.218 DLL langage=US version=7.210

System Setting
--------------------
Load in Ram Channel1= Yes Channel2= Yes
Load memory time limit=13 Load time=normal
Low gui priority=Yes Equalization bypass=No
MultiInstance=No

General Setting
--------------------
Nb Mixer Channels=2 Nb Samples=16
Windows Caption=No Theme=3
TAG V1=Yes TAG V2=No

Mix Setting
--------------------
AutoCue=Yes AutoGain=Yes AutoBpm at Load=Yes
Display Pitch=Yes Auto Match at load=No
Bpm Range min=78 max=150
Loop in bar boundaries=Yes Security=No History=Yes
Compressor=No Limiter=No

Sound Configuration
--------------------
Nb Sound=2 Nb Mixer=0
Managment Type ASIO
Device=MIXVIBES U46MK2 ASIO AsioVersion=0 DriverVersion=2
Latency=6 Driver sampling=44100 Nb Input=4 Nb Output=6
Managment Type ASIO
1-L:U46DJ 1/2 2-R:U46DJ 1/2
3-L:U46DJ 3/4 4-R:U46DJ 3/4

Vinyl Configuration
--------------------
Vinyl1 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=0:L:U46DJ 1/2-R:U46DJ 1/2
Mode=absolute
Riaa=Yes Preamp Left=-1 db Preamp Right=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=Yes PhaseInv=No
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=93.312 Volume max left=0.875 Volume max right=0.875 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.993 Speed Average(1s)=1.003 Speed Average(3s)=1.003


Vinyl2 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=2:L:U46DJ 3/4-R:U46DJ 3/4
Mode=absolute
Riaa=Yes Preamp Left=0 db Preamp Right=1 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=Yes PhaseInv=Yes
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=91.837 Volume max left=0.674 Volume max right=0.674 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.991 Speed Average(1s)=1.003 Speed Average(3s)=1.003


maybe this gives any clue what is wrong
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