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Re: DVS & FA-66

Postby Luramen on 24 Jan 2009, 22:50

So I disabled many of the network services I don't use. I tried expanding latency here and there with ASIO4all and still the glitches. I've had enough.

I'm going back to PCDJ Reflex while is still out there. (with no glitching, no complicated MIDI settings and native HS-5500 support)

Thank u all for your help.
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Re: DVS & FA-66

Postby Psykadelik on 24 Jan 2009, 23:20

Another thing you can try and do is disable Windows Search. Check out the link below.

http://www.audioforums.com/windows-vist ... zation.php

Also in reference to what Gakto2009 said, you can have EVERYTHING spec wise right with your computer in terms of running the software, but your gonna have problems with your firewire interface if the controller is crap. If you don't mind, could you go to control panel, device manager, look for IEEE 1394 Bus Host Controller, expand it, and see which one you have?
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Re: DVS & FA-66

Postby Luramen on 24 Jan 2009, 23:46

It shows "OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller"
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Re: DVS & FA-66

Postby Psykadelik on 24 Jan 2009, 23:55

When you right click it and choose propeties it should say the manufactuer. If not, then if you have a card reader, click on IDE ATA/ATAPI adaptors. There should be something like memory stick controller, pick card controller etc.
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Re: DVS & FA-66

Postby Luramen on 25 Jan 2009, 00:06

The IEEE1394 shows the same description with the word "vendor" at the end

IDE ATA/ATAPI:

Intel (R) ICH9M-E/SATA AHCI Controller
Ricoh Memory Stick Host Controller
Ricoh SD Bus Host Adapter
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Re: DVS & FA-66

Postby Psykadelik on 25 Jan 2009, 00:23

Ricoh eh? I think the problem you might be experiencing is imcompatability. AFAIK, the FA-66 doesn't work that great with Ricoh. In fact A LOT of firewire audio interfaces don't work well with Ricoh for low latency work or just don't work period. The FA-66 (and pretty much every firewire sound card on the planet) will work best with a Texas Instruments firewire controller. What you would have to do is either try a different firewire cable, get a PCMCIA/express card with a 1394 Texas Instrument chipset in it or return the FA-66 and purchase an other FW sound card or get a USB sound card instead.

If you have another program on your computer that uses ASIO (Sonar, Live, etc.) and you experience dropouts playing back music with the FA-66, at say 512 (or even 1024), then it is due to the Ricoh chipset. I myself did these tests under both Vista and Windows 7 Beta (which for me, was the best environment to do audio stuff in general because of how everything was set up). My results using the Live 7 demo were not different in 7 than it was in Vista because of that chipset.
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Re: DVS & FA-66

Postby gakto2009 on 26 Jan 2009, 19:33

the FA-66 doesn't work that great with Ricoh. In fact A LOT of firewire audio interfaces don't work well with Ricoh for low latency work or just don't work period.


I am afraid to say i have to disagree with you on this point, my new laptop “Sony Viao VGN-CS11S/w” has the Ricoh chipset embedded firewire and flash card readers and i’m not having any bother with it at all, even as low latency as the Edirol will handle it still doesn’t give me any problems at all.

ricoh firewire.JPG


So i believe there is still light at the end of the tunnel for Luramen yet, i think its just going to be a case of trial and error...
I have read that there are people out there with problem regarding the Ricoh chipset though if you look you will find people also having trouble with the Texas Instruments chipset also.

@ Luramen,

Have you come any closer to finding a solution to this problem?
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Re: DVS & FA-66

Postby Psykadelik on 26 Jan 2009, 20:52

gakto2009 wrote:
the FA-66 doesn't work that great with Ricoh. In fact A LOT of firewire audio interfaces don't work well with Ricoh for low latency work or just don't work period.


I am afraid to say i have to disagree with you on this point, my new laptop “Sony Viao VGN-CS11S/w” has the Ricoh chipset embedded firewire and flash card readers and i’m not having any bother with it at all, even as low latency as the Edirol will handle it still doesn’t give me any problems at all.

ricoh firewire.JPG


I have a Ricoh chipset as well and it is working with my Audiofire8 and it is not acting wonky at all. :) It varied from software to software. With Mixvibes DVS 7 I can even get 0.66ms without any issues. When I use did a performance Test with the Live 6 demo, I couldn't even play 4 tracks without dropping out using 512 buffers. :( It also depends on your laptop as well I guess, cause there were laptops that were less powerful than mine that were able to do better than me. :evil:

So i believe there is still light at the end of the tunnel for Luramen yet, i think its just going to be a case of trial and error...
I have read that there are people out there with problem regarding the Ricoh chipset though if you look you will find people also having trouble with the Texas Instruments chipset also.


I heard more bad about Ricoh than I have with Texas Instruments for DAW work using FW audio interfaces and even then you have companies like RME, Echo, Presonus, MOTU, Edirol, m-audio, Focusrite, TC Electronics, etc. that recommend TI, with the occassional Agere or VIA.

There are exceptions though as you said, through trial and error. There is probably a device on his laptop that is gumming up the works by sharing the same IRQ as his controller. It's a possibility.
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