[solved]My timecode is unstable - Help Please

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[solved]My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby m3lvino on 13 Sep 2010, 23:28

Hi Guys,

Ive just upgraded my PC with windows 7 ULT from home premium.

Ive installed Producer 7.21 and 7.4RC. Windows 7 is fully updated.

Both MV update versions have the same issue as does the version I installed initially from disk (Pro 6)

I have a Mudio delta 44 with latest drivers (5.10.0.5074)
Here is my config report..

Config 2010/09/13 22:06

OS= build=7600 processor=PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel
MixVibes Producer version=7.400 DLL langage=US version=7.400

System Setting
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Load in Ram Channel1= Yes Channel2= Yes
Load memory time limit=13 Load time=normal
Low gui priority=Yes Equalization bypass=No
MultiInstance=No

General Setting
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Nb Mixer Channels=2 Nb Samples=16
Windows Caption=No Theme=0
TAG V1=Yes TAG V2=Yes

Mix Setting
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AutoCue=Yes AutoGain=Yes AutoBpm at Load=Yes
Display Pitch=Yes Auto Match at load=No
Bpm Range min=165 max=175
Loop in bar boundaries=Yes Security=No History=Yes
Compressor=No Limiter=No

Sound Configuration
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Nb Sound=2 Nb Mixer=0
Managment Type ASIO
Device=M-Audio Delta ASIO AsioVersion=0 DriverVersion=5074
Latency=12 Driver sampling=44100 Nb Input=12 Nb Output=8
Managment Type ASIO
1-Analog Out 1/2 L Delta-44 2-Analog Out 1/2 R Delta-44
3-Analog Out 3/4 L Delta-44 4-Analog Out 3/4 R Delta-44

Vinyl Configuration
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Vinyl1 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=0:Analog In 1 Delta-44-Analog In 2 Delta-44
Mode=absolute
Riaa=No Preamp Left=47 db Preamp Right=47 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=Yes PhaseInv=No
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=0.500 Volume max left=0.000 Volume max right=0.000 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.000 Speed Average(1s)=0.000 Speed Average(3s)=0.000


Vinyl2 connected=vinyl version 2
Audio=ASIO source=2:Analog In 3 Delta-44-Analog In 4 Delta-44
Mode=absolute
Riaa=No Preamp Left=47 db Preamp Right=48 db Noise Filter=0 Hz
45T=No InverseLR=No PhaseInv=Yes
Decalage=0 ms Time limit=720000 ms
Silence seuil=-40.000 db SNR=40 db

Config Bypass Riaa=No Preamp=0 db Noise Filter=0 Hz Input Latency=0 ms

Vinyl Stats (turntable pitch set to 0 play at normal way)
Time code percent=97.668 Volume max left=0.404 Volume max right=0.404 Volume optimum=0.370
Speed Average(100ms)=0.998 Speed Average(1s)=1.000 Speed Average(3s)=1.000


Vinyl 3 not connected
Vinyl 4 not connected

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In short this is my problem, hope this makes sense..and, advance apologies if the description seems drawn out..I'm aiming for the least amount of queries to minimise time spent on the post :)

Ok so everything is set up as usual all the settings are where they should be...VINYL Calibration goes fine initially..

Then after a random amount of time.. Anything between a minute or so to, at very most 15 miuntes, the timecode quality drops. Best way I can explain it is this...(and dont think its dodgy cabling please!!! Ive done everything possible with the cabling to ensure that end of the deal is tight, besides my XP partition runs with exactly the same set up without a hitch!)...Think of the time code quality in the same vain as a set of headphones where everything sounds OK then due to a dodgy connection on your player or and your headphone cables you hear a crack and you left with one headphone or two with one glitching - thats when the spiking on the waveform kicks in - and no, the left/right channel audio levels are fine, its purely effecting the timecode (driver I hear you say?)... Based on my long time with this software I'd guess this is a software glitch of some sort..possibly with the driver..maybe one of those awfull unexplainable windows glitches or a hardware setup that for some reason the MV isnt happy? ----Do bear in mind though bar the Madio Delta 44 drivers this is the first thing installed onto a fresh W7 install!!....Bloody annoying...I think its a trial and error thing but if I try any more conitations of the ways I install the software or drivers and multiple settings in Windows its-self to try and accomodate a working install I think I'm going to lose it - If I do crack it however there a decent image creation app waiting hoping for some luck lol. Hopefully its a silly setting Ive missed but pretty sure its not. Writing here is a last ditch attempt before as much as I love MV I go and hunt down another software vinyl digi solution (perish the thought) that wont drive me nuts outside the XP platform (and yes, I know theres lots of succesful Windows 7 users out there including me before I thought it was a good idea to upgrade from home premium to Ultimate!) - Although I must say as Ive seen this exact same problem but somehow sussed it by fluke and quickly took an image before it went mad again. Now I want to make this shizzle work on princaple.!

To explain further (if your not bored yet) In the vinyl/cd tab in the options the wave form displays strange spikes and they mirror each other in both decks - this is the sign of the issue if I monitor the waveforms in that screen. If one channel goes, then its the same for both. I have brand new vinyls and stylus.

Image of waveform when spiking..

Image

Should look like this,,,

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Main issue is I've upgraded to 7 ULT from Home Premium so I can't really revert to that now using my 'rescue image' without making my O/S investment defunked...I hope someone out there can help me stay onside and protect my investments as there are a couple of features on the Ultimate version I genuinely need and I dont really want my DJ software dictating my OS.

If anyone one could help me resolve this then I would be eternally greatful.

ps..

I have set windows setting to 'adjust for best performance' and adjust for best performance of 'background services'

I have 3GB of Ram and running a p4 3.00GHZ (HT)

Cheers,

Melv
Last edited by UncleVibes on 18 Sep 2010, 09:55, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Soluce found conflict with pci netgear card
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Re: My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby Support@MixVibes on 14 Sep 2010, 11:36

Some things you might check :
- ground from your TT to your mixer/soundcard
- wires in the tonearm
- change drivers by trying with asio4all
- power scheme : max performances
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Re: My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby Blackbrook on 14 Sep 2010, 12:56

Don't get it wrong but is it a legal copy of Win7 Ultimate? I have read somewhere in the forums that if you are using cracked OS there is often already malware and spyware added. So this could be the error.

If you have a legal copy forget what I said!

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Re: My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby m3lvino on 14 Sep 2010, 15:33

Hiya Blackbrook, Yes its a legal copy and all updated with the MS update tool. Non legal copies of your o/s is a big no go for me, that has to be solid software for everything else to run.
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Re: My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby m3lvino on 14 Sep 2010, 15:52

Support at mixvibes said....
Some things you might check :
- ground from your TT to your mixer/soundcard
- wires in the tonearm
- change drivers by trying with asio4all
- power scheme : max performances

-My turntables are goround to my mixer
-Wire in tone arm - well this cant be the issue because as I said the software works perfectly with my XP partition (same PC same drive as w7) with exactly the same hardware config.
-Asio4all does not work with the Maudio delta 44
-Power scheme: max performances....Is this a relevant suggestions seeing as its a desktop PC Im running (no battery to preserve)

The key thing to point out with regards to my original post is to reitterate that the hardware config which is the same system works perfectly under xp!

cheers,

Melvin
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Re: My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby Support@MixVibes on 14 Sep 2010, 17:05

m3lvino wrote:-My turntables are goround to my mixer

Did you try to ground them on your soundcard ? (Useless if we read the 4th point.)

-Asio4all does not work with the Maudio delta 44

Didn't knew : so you can't try any other drivers on W7.

-Power scheme: max performances....Is this a relevant suggestions seeing as its a desktop PC Im running (no battery to preserve)

Yes it is : cpu speed and many other little things (check under advanced)

The key thing to point out with regards to my original post is to reitterate that the hardware config which is the same system works perfectly under xp!

My guess is that the issue is arround the soundcard, could you try with another soundcard (the internal one with asio4all can do the work).
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Re: My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby m3lvino on 15 Sep 2010, 03:15

Mv Support.. Yea I think it's the drivers too. I have a back up of a working install within w7. If I can get that restored then im good to go. I'll keep u posted I think that's the best solution. All the other suggestions I've tried. It's one of those things on paper doesn't add up
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Re: My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby m3lvino on 17 Sep 2010, 21:04

Hi, I just wanted to advise I have resolved the issue..Took a while but discovered it was a conflict. I disabled my netgear pci card (dont use it any more anyways) and the problem went away instantly and am getting a stable an experience on Windows 7 as on XP. Its really good I figured it out but thought I'd post and let yall know that sometimes if there are issues like this it might be worth disabling some devices to see if there are any conflicts that affect the stability of the timecode. Cheers for the input anyways.

Melvin :):):)
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Re: [solved]My timecode is unstable - Help Please

Postby Support@MixVibes on 20 Sep 2010, 12:19

Fantastic news !
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