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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby RoJeC on 31 Jan 2016, 00:12

I still think we're not talking about the same.
In the user interface the reset button does set the fader value to 50.

Increase / decrease changes the value. This can be a repeating and/or accelerating value, starting after an interval.

Further there are toggle / holder values; value for en/disable button or while holding button.

What isn't clear yet is if you're trying to create a MIDI mapping for a new or a listed device. Or maybe working on a keyboard control.

Pretty likely we'll be able to help you when being sure what has to be achieved.
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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby FigDJ on 31 Jan 2016, 02:12

We are talking about the same thing. There is no separate command for the reset and there is no need for one. Just using a button as the trigger for MIDI learn performs the same internal command and provides the desired result.
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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby RoJeC on 31 Jan 2016, 11:39

I agree.. But can't understand what the functional usage is to be.. Cross has a pitch on load reset option in preferences, and if you do a pitch reset when a controller is used one's fader position is out of sync.
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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby FigDJ on 01 Feb 2016, 19:47

Let's say that you are trying to progresivelly go up on BPM.

Player A is playing out on the floor with a BPM of 120.

Player B is on cue with a BPM of 122.

You beatmatch Player B to Player A and now Player B is playing on the floor at 120 BPM but had an original BPM of 122.

Player A is stop and you are ready to load your next track.

Your next track for Player A has a 124 BPM.
1. You can beatmatch it to Player B which is currently playing at 120.

2. You can slowly move the pitch so Player B returns to the original 122 BPM, then beatmatch Player A (track at 124) to Player B (now back to 122 BPM).

3. You can hit Tempo reset (at the right time) to quickly get Player B back to 122 BPM, then beatmatch Player A (track at 124) to Player B (now back to 122 BPM).
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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby RoJeC on 01 Feb 2016, 23:07

Thanks for the explanation...

However I mean what is the functional usage regarding the request for this additional MIDI setting. :mrgreen:

I'm not convinced yet of the user asking for the command linked to a push button of a controller with MIDI capabilities. If only because the replies don't seem to answer it.
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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby djdementia on 06 Feb 2017, 20:22

RoJeC wrote:Really don't understand what the problem is you have with this.

You can use the MIDI commands for multiple controls. So if you have it ser for the fader, click the + button to have it set for your reset control button.
For a fader you use in/decrease values, for reset you use a fixed value. I haven't checked, but likely 50 is the reset value.

Hope this helps you in getting it resolved.


Can you explain in detail how to "reset the value to 50". When I go to Pitch Value, add a mapping, press the button I want to use as Pitch Reset I then have the presets "Direct Fader/Knob" and "Inc-Dec Normal Fader/Knob".

In Direct Fader Knob I have the options: Invert Y/N; Center Y/N; and Center Values. If I Enable Center then I can choose Center values in Hex.

I don't see where to put the value of 50.

If I choose In-Dec Normal Fader/Knob I see choices of Backward, Forward, and Step. Step is the place it seems like I'd put this value of 50, but it doesn't work if I put it there. It seems like that is a multiplier of the amount the fader moves.

I do not see where to "set the value".
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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby FigDJ on 06 Feb 2017, 20:44

You have to do it as a direct normal button.


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        <mapping name="LONG PUSH KEY/TEMPO= RESET">
          <events>
            <MIDI type="Note" parameter="0x1c" channel="0x1"/>
          </events>
          <controls>
            <control alias="fam(Player)[0x1].PitchValue"/>
          </controls>
          <preset name="Direct Normal Button">
            <parameters>
              <parameter object="action-0" key="normal" value="0.5"/>
            </parameters>
          </preset>
        </mapping>
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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby djdementia on 06 Feb 2017, 21:16

Where are the instructions on how to do a "direct normal button"?

When I add "Pitch Value" "normal button" is not one of the presets. How do I add this preset?

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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby RoJeC on 06 Feb 2017, 22:17

FigDJ might have better info, but to me it seems you're trying to use a fader to do this. For a direct 0 (or any value) you need a push button (or such).

Be aware that if you use this option the result will be that your physical pitch fader isn't in sync with Cross no more. So you'll have to move it to 0position for it to become in sync again.
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Re: Reset Pitch MIDI mappable

Postby djdementia on 07 Feb 2017, 01:49

RoJeC wrote:FigDJ might have better info, but to me it seems you're trying to use a fader to do this. For a direct 0 (or any value) you need a push button (or such).

Be aware that if you use this option the result will be that your physical pitch fader isn't in sync with Cross no more. So you'll have to move it to 0position for it to become in sync again.



No it was a pushbutton. It's a Hercules RMX. It actually has a physical button specifically for this "Pitch Reset". One for each deck A and B. Here are the specifications of the button I'm pressing:

http://ts.hercules.com/download/sound/m ... mx_eng.pdf

Page 24 of the manual.

Name: Left Reset
MIDI Message: Bx 11 Value
Message Type: Button - Toggling Output
Value: 7F: Pressed – 00: Released

Name: Right Reset
MIDI Message: Bx 20 Value
Message Type: Button - Toggling Output
Value: 7F: Pressed – 00: Released
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