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Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 21 May 2015, 19:22
by Calcam
I have been using Cross DJ on an iPad for for some time now. Basically it works very well for my purposes. In my application of this app I teach dancing. This means I need to pause the music without resetting the cue point.

The present procedure is to touch the go button and touch it again to resume playing. It would help if the icon changed to show that it is paused. This is the normal way it is done in most apps.

It would also help greatly to have a way to return to the start of a file other than for touching the cue button while the music is playing. The problem I have is that the default start point set by the app is often inaccurate. If you could provide button to return to the the beginning of the file, it would be much appreciated.

As it is now, I have to load a play list and then go through every piece of music and usually reset many cue points manually because the cue point set by Cross DJ is in the wrong place.

I vollunterred some time ago to act as a beta tester. The offer is still open..

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 21 May 2015, 19:42
by RoJeC
There may be some differences in interpretation. When you stop playing it is stopped. Pause doesn't exist in most DJ apps. This makes it differ from a common audio player.

Cross sets cue at the first downbeat. This is makes mixing smoother. This is the philosophy to make it easy to use. It does mean that for some tracks you have to manual set the cue. Once set it is saved.

For live djing the cue also often is to early as to keep the flow at the floor the intro is skipped.

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 06 Jun 2015, 12:49
by Calcam
I can see you are focusing entirely on the DJ market and I can understand. However, there is another market of people like me who teach dancing. It is a much larger market by about 20 times than the DJ market. You might want to think about that.

What you have done in CrossDJ is very close to what we need. You would just have to add a few things like a way to return to the start of a file and you could open up and entirely new source of income with a different set of customers.

Think about it. How difficult would it be to provide a button to return to the start of the file?

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 06 Jun 2015, 13:06
by RoJeC
Thanks for your suggestion. Your need is clear and valid.

However in last like decades of development of Cross and predecessors various methods have been used to determine the start position. All with it's pro's and con's.

The Cross devteam tries to do as much in the background as possible to keep the use as simple as possible.

As you say implementing is very simple... so it has been given serious thought before remove it.

One day it might be back if asked by sufficient users...

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 07 Jun 2015, 17:44
by Calcam
OK! Folks! What I'm asking for is the addition of a button to take the file back to the starting point of the file. This will not affect the function of the cue button.

They are saying that if a enough used request such a button they can put it in. That's you folks.

I think it's needed. How do the rest of you feel?

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 07 Jun 2015, 18:15
by daniel clark
:idea: would a option in preferences ,to have/able /diaable the setting of the cue point to the start of file or first anyalised downbeat ,, be a simpler solution ,, that way it doesnt alter the gui and is user defined/selected ,, :idea: maybe this is better suited than a actual button ,

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 07 Jun 2015, 18:22
by sfronti
+1 daniel.

Stelios, Greece

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 07 Jun 2015, 18:42
by daniel clark
:cool: not shure if there is a command in MIDI mapping for this already set up ,,that would be the ticket since it could be user defined in the mapping ,,

so many possibilities ,, me my workaround is if playing a file where the cue point is not to my liking then i change it ,, long drawn out process ,, but back in the day i started with bsr cermanic cartiges and auto matic arm and had to fight/adapt usage ,,so this is a easy workaround :mrgreen:

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 07 Jun 2015, 21:00
by FigDJ
This is already available in Cross/CrossDJ for PC and Mac using MIDI commands. However, command or MIDI controller mapping is not open to users with iOS.

Re: Pause Button Icon and Return to Start of File Button

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2015, 15:39
by davide445
+1 for enable to start from beginning of the file automatically.

Me too working for a ballet school, just now using the sw in an theater for the tomorrow event general test.

The artistic director complain me many times about the music starting later than the beginning.