Closer to the analog sound

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Closer to the analog sound

Postby DjTom on 21 Jun 2014, 06:49

Make scratch sound like analog sound real vinyl.

Move scratching on controller in Virtual DJ 8 - sound very good, like analog vinyl. And JogSensentivityScratch very good position with motion jog-controller.

If you drive slow mouse on soundwaves Cross and VDj8 - hear the difference. In Cross sound more digital.


What makes Mixvibes for a better sound like real Vinyl ?
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby rubber on 21 Jun 2014, 08:22

the scratch sound quality depends of many things :
latency
controller
sound card

what is your config ?

For the best sound quality try mixvibes vinyl or the control Pioneer HID
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby DjTom on 21 Jun 2014, 09:00

rubber wrote:the scratch sound quality depends of many things :
latency
controller
sound card

what is your config ?

For the best sound quality try mixvibes vinyl or the control Pioneer HID


I know that. Tested on one configuration vdj8 and Cross . In Cross more digital sound
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby HawnSolo on 21 Jun 2014, 20:24

Do you have the deck set to master tempo pitch mode? This can really effect the sound of the scratching. Experiment with the speed and hybrid pitch modes.
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby DjTom on 22 Jun 2014, 04:41

HawnSolo wrote:Do you have the deck set to master tempo pitch mode? This can really effect the sound of the scratching. Experiment with the speed and hybrid pitch modes.


Pitch = 0.
if you do not believe me, download VDJ8demo and compare - with mouse move wavesound
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby RoJeC on 22 Jun 2014, 11:44

The question was not about pitch value but pitch mode. The control button under pitch slider.
HawnSolo does believe your experience. Else he wouldn't provide this suggestion.
When scratching your pitch effective is not 0.
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby DjTom on 22 Jun 2014, 13:50

RoJeC wrote:The question was not about pitch value but pitch mode. The control button under pitch slider.
HawnSolo does believe your experience. Else he wouldn't provide this suggestion.
When scratching your pitch effective is not 0.



I am testing Cross and VDj8 at the same track and with the same parameters.
If I do not change the position of the pitch and it is 0, what is the difference in what mode it is enabled?
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby daniel clark on 22 Jun 2014, 14:00

:eek: have you tried it to see the difference :eek: :?:
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby RoJeC on 22 Jun 2014, 14:05

Summary would be that the settings determine the change in key for speed change.
When scratching you do not control with the pitch slider but you do change the pitch of the track.
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Re: Closer to the analog sound

Postby HawnSolo on 22 Jun 2014, 21:04

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Click the box highlighted in yellow to change the pitch mode on the deck. The pitch mode determines whether or not the key (aka pitch) of the track will change or stay locked when you adjust the tempo using the pitch fader.

Think of MT (master tempo) as a key lock (changing tempo/speed does not change pitch).
Speed mode acts like a normal turntable would if you were mixing actual records, that means any change to the speed of the track will effect the pitch.
Hybrid mode has a key lock within +/-16% then outside of that range it acts like speed mode.

The problem I think you are having is that your deck is set to MT mode, and then when you scratch the pitch is not changing (which is why it sounds weird and digital). When scratching you get a lot of variation on the pitch depending on whether you are slowing the platter down or speeding it up, ect.

Try enabling key lock in VDJ and I imagine you will run into the same issue. I recommend using hybrid mode because the pitch of the track stays locked in a pretty big range, but when you scratch it will allow for the slight changes in pitch.

I hope that all made sense.
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