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Re: Display or not display the BPM

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2014, 11:56
by RoJeC
Not that I won't like things modified 'my way', but I think the power of Cross is that the team focuses on features to make the use easy.

Flexibility and user options were there in the past. From what I've learned by developing software creating to much user options significantly slows down development.

A quick example: Cross GUI has over 200 controls/objects. Each object has like 100 parameters. Several of which are programmable. So it is not just a matter of showing or not showing something, but also taking care of the other values to not interfere in a wrong way.

And nowadays objects have many size and relative size and group and subgroup properties with all the different screen sizes...

My suggestion would be to really limit this to a bare minimum, as every new development should be checked and build against user interface options. And new features will be more difficult for users to start using, as they will first have to modify their GUI...

Whatever my opinion is, don't hesitate to ask for changes... If they don't know it won't come in..

Re: Display or not display the BPM

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2014, 13:54
by FigDJ

Let me 1st just say that, I agree 100% with your comments and truly appreciate your insights in the software development arena.

However, IMHO there are two exceptions.

1. If a competitor is offering the feature, then it would be in the best interest for Mixvibes to at least look into implementing the feature in order to remain competitive.

2. if there is a change in the GUI that changes what was already developed and published, perhaps a selector option should be available.

For #2 and in my case, I am talking about

A. The deck waveforms - Which were reduced in vertical size from version 2.6 to 3.X. (Not that big of a deal for me as I am slowly getting used to).

B. The new way of displaying video- From 2.6 to 3.X . IMHO the 3.X may suit some users but it is also very inefficient when it comes to screen real state to display the collection. (not a deal breaker either as I just change to collection view when I am doing my selections)

C. The beatmacher rendering- IMHO 3.X way of rendering the beatmacher is noisy, unclear and not well marked as far as the beatmarkers. I have posted many threads on this issue and it is truly a dealbreaker for me. So I am stuck using 2.6 and missing out in all the worderful new features that 3.X has to offer because the change was made and there is not a good option available to render the beatmacher with better markers.

To this point some may argue that I could use legacy rendering option. That point would be valid if legacy rendering was as good as it was with the 2.6 way of rendering the beatmatcher but as it is right now it is not good enought.

To summarize: Not having a good option for the marking and rendering of the beatmacher is a deal breaker for me and now I am one feature away from jumping. Either one of two things are going to happen. Either Mixvibes fixes the beatmacher or the other DJ software company will come up with the feature that is missing (which Cross/Cross DJ already have). Then it will be desicion time.

Re: Display or not display the BPM

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2014, 20:35
by RoJeC
The changes from 2 to 3 would have been very hard if users had quite some influence to the gui.
Other challenge is the ability to work single source for multi OS.

Some of the changes I agree can be further improved to become better than before. But also proves that looking at competitors not necessarily reflect the wishes of the user group.

And I still prefer the grey gui of earlier Cross DJ.....

Have a nice weekend.

Re: Display or not display the BPM

PostPosted: 01 Nov 2014, 00:47
by FigDJ
My gripe is that 3.x broke the beatmatcher which was the reason I bought Cross in the first place.

Re: Display or not display the BPM

PostPosted: 03 Nov 2014, 20:35
by 2kvai777
+1 for this request

Re: Display or not display the BPM

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2015, 19:43
by Charly82
This is my number 1 request, completely agree!

Discussion nowadays is quite big around this topic. I love the technical options that Cross provides, but my Technics are right beside my cdj's and feel that beatmatching by ear is still the only right way for me to DJ.

Would really like to see this supported!

Re: Display or not display the BPM

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2015, 05:18
by Henry Jay
MixVibes is wonderful is would be even better with option of watching or not the bpm , good idea