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Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control Pro

PostPosted: 14 Sep 2016, 22:46
by jaguarrr
Hi everybody!

I want to connect

Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB)
with PC (Win 10)
and U-Mix Control Pro (by USB)
in Cross DJ 3.3.11
to record mixes at home

(jack out in laptop -> external amplifier
or
chinch out in U-Mix -> external amplifier)

HOW TO DO IT PROPERLY ?

(I mean not cable coonections, but computer mapping and other software "things", like preferences -> audio -> routing mode etc...
or preferences->midi-> and to add Pioneer 850 properly (!), beacuse Cross DJ recognises only one Pioneer (instead of two) constantly !!!)
thank you for help !

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 15 Sep 2016, 15:45
by Team@Mixvibes
Hello Jaguar,

Here is some useful links:
http://www.mixvibes.com/wp-content/uplo ... torial.png
(Pioneer drivers button does not work anymore but you'll find them easily on their website)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbKHjYZ1RFo

Also (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) but you can't have HID in Cross DJ and you need to upgrade to Cross.
(detailed feature comparison: http://www.mixvibes.com/wp-content/uplo ... 1-2014.pdf

Cross upgrade: https://secure.shareit.com/shareit/chec ... =300585305

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 18 Sep 2016, 13:23
by jaguarrr
thank you guys!
I'd like thank you really !

I will report you everytning, when I'll make everythnig according to your advices!

THX!

P.S. 1: Everything worked in my previous version of MixVibes...
All buttons in Pioneer & Mixvibes worked / were competable.
after upgrade - no.
OK
in case of "oftware defeat" I'll have to return to my previous version, unfortunatelly....

P.S. 2.: I would like to use my U-Mix Control Pro as a mixer. does it miean that I also need to connect U-Mix Control Pro by USB to PC ?
because on that link that you send, there is no connection of mixer with PC

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 18 Sep 2016, 13:45
by RoJeC
If you are using 'Cross DJ' then you need to select the MIDI mapping for CDJ 850. I don't use this type of setup, but it might be you have to change a setting in CDJ to be able to use MIDI (though if you used it at an other PC before this should be right).

A U-Mix Control Pro always needs to be connected to a PC to work at all.

You best try to use Cross 32bit version. This is to exclude any driver issues. Once this works you could give the 64bit version a try, if it doesn't you can just use the 32bit. For use with audio tracks using 64bit has hardly any advantage.

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 18 Sep 2016, 19:28
by jaguarrr
Before current setup I had:
- laptop with Win 7 (64bit)
- CDJ 850
- U-Mix Control Pro

everything worked properly

after I bought new laptop wit Win 10 and updated MixVibes to CrossDJ everything failed, even with the same setup (!)

that's why I have decided to post you for Help

P.S. The first "setup/startup" picture is nice, but... there no instructions for further setps , I mean MIDI mapping / adding players (f.egz. Pioneer 850) to the program setup. That looks painful / uncoumfortable. Too much time needed for that , especially , if you are not a software or DJ only [I work in hospital in my everyday life, for the last years I'm DJing for hobby only, using CDs / Vinyls].
Compairing MixVibes to other DJ Soft (tractor for egz.) - it was much more stable, easier etc
In the previous version of MixVibes everything worked "automatitially" - plug in, small set up & GO!
New version of your software requires much more time.
I hope that next updates it will become better, because I liked the MixVibes from the very first glance & I've used it for years (!!!),
& I hope, the next generations will be better only!

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 18 Sep 2016, 21:00
by RoJeC
Lot's of things changed since Mixvibes software was build. You're now using W10, which has less audio features build in than any earlier OS version. Also many other design changes cause w10 (partial starting in W8) to act different.

From your description it isn't to clear which steps you executed.
The U-Mix Control Pro normally works with W10.
For Pioneer verify you're using latest firmware and drivers.
As mentioned earlier just try using Cross 32bit version till everything works.

Further you're a typical DJ... working and having fun being DJ in your spare time...

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 19 Sep 2016, 13:09
by Team@Mixvibes
Thanks RoJec for clarifying, hope it helps jaguarrrr

Jaguarrr > thanks for the kind words. Indeed, I acknowledge that set-up ease should be a priority and will push internally in this direction.

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2016, 17:30
by jaguarrr
i hope so.
in case, if YOU will need help (in testing for example) - I'm at your service.
I will try to do my best to make this DJ/Vjing software better.

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2016, 18:03
by jaguarrr
p.s. I've tried to download the Cross v 2.3 from this forum - no way!
jis there any other option to get v2.3 ?
adress:
[PC] CrossDJ 2.3.0 & release notes

everything was showed here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbKHjYZ1RFo
that's why I don't need "complicated" updates.
and I don't wand to download Cross from torrent sites :(

Re: Connect Pioneer CDJ 850 (by USB) with PC & U-Mix Control

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2016, 19:18
by DJ Vintage
Older versions of the software are not optimized to work with more modern version of the OS (W10 in your case).

If you want to use DJ software on the latest OS version, you should, generally - there are always exceptions, use the latest DJ Software version.