Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS & Cross

[Di Rossi]

Ok, i now that already be discusted on this community...But an LTS version...More and more users are using the ubuntu....could be possible an linux version?that will be fantastic....

[Blackbrook]

I have written different messages to the developers, describing the whole change in the market. Asking me, Windows will loose a lot of market share at desktops and laptops when Win8 is launched. Therefore users will change their OS to MacOS or Linux or just stick with Win7.
But I am with you: Cross is the only reason for me to stick with windows, but I fear this might change in the future. I am not sure what's next, but I want to use Ubuntu.

[Di Rossi]

I think is time to work on a linux version...the ubuntu is a consolidate version already....is stable enough(more then windows,and for me better then mac....
Did you have any awnsers of the developers?....

[Blackbrook]

I think is time to work on a linux version...the ubuntu is a consolidate version already....is stable enough(more then windows,and for me better then Mac....
Did you have any awnsers of the developers?....

Just unofficial stuff I am not allowed to tell, neither here nor by PM - Sorry! My last message was a bit longer and ended with a sentence like: "this is my opinion and you don't hve to answer to it. Hopefully you will start working a linux version".
I think, this is my opinion, that they fear the fact, that you have to configure the whole audio stuff with jack on your own and that A LOT of users can not do so. Speaking for myself I am not that deep into jack, I have played around with it and it worked when I was setting up adour or other DAWs, I have even tried it with mixxx which worked, but mixxx is, without timecode control and just with a controller, absolutely NO alternative. It is just too incorrect regarding the BPM detection and the grid.
I would pay £100 for a linux version, but I think I am one of the less who would do so and this is why the mixvibes boss will never allow to develop it - it is not worth in the end (they fear).
Hopefully windows will damage itself with Win8 and loose A LOT of market share, but I doubt it meanwhile :-(

Let's see how this develops.

[Di Rossi]

If i have the skills to do it, i will do it....I'm talking to a brain to help me on that

[BennyB]

Hopefully windows will damage itself with Win8 and loose A LOT of market share, but I doubt it meanwhile :-(

Actually, Win8 is not so useful on PCs, only on tablets mostly... but this OS is to early.

[Blackbrook]

Hopefully windows will damage itself with Win8 and loose A LOT of market share, but I doubt it meanwhile :-(

Actually, Win8 is not so useful on PCs, only on tablets mostly... but this OS is to early.

Let's go offtopic, as this question seems solved, and talk about Microsoft. They think they can do something and everybody is following. For a lot of people, talking in percent I would suggest 60% to 70%, this is true, because they have no deeper knowledge and are happy if their bought PC is delivered with an OS which allows to go to Facebook and check mails.
But there are a lot of users like we are: technically interested, independent and with a free mind. Those guys are able to realize what Microsoft is doing: Going its own way without listening to the users. They think progamming for tablets is the best way because in the future everybody will have a tablet to use instead of a computer or laptop. Desktop machines and laptops will die, so does the "old" operating system and its usability. What if they are wrong? What if there are people who continue using machines as they were used to?
Asking me, Win8 is a fault which Win9 might correct. With Win9 they might introduce two versions: one for touchpads and one for desktop and PCs. On Linux the KDE project and Ubuntu did something similar: At the time when netbooks with their small resolution became popular they build to versions: one for netbooks, with big buttons to press and everything optimised for this resolution and the other one as the common version everybody was used to. Why the heck does not Microsoft behave this way? For a big company as they are this means just a little less variation regarding the GUI - that's it. And don't tell me that I can use the "old" desktop - I know that I can change to that, but why does the Metro GUI (which is not allowed to be called Metro - but who cares?!) start while booting windows? For sure, there will be autostart tweaks which will show the desktop after booting, but this is bullshit.
I could continue talking about this the whole day, coming up with arguments and things to talk about within minutes, but I think I told you what I think about it. If there will ever be a linux version of Cross I would be so thankful - you can't imagine!
Thanks for reading!

Maybe something to convince the boss: What made Mixvibes famous in the past? Listening to its users! I know, you are interested in market share and money (as stated in the linux thread, months ago) - this is the way a business works, I am not with stupid, but think of free minds and being the first one who delivers a professional (!) mixing programme on Linux (forget about mixxx, this is rubbish!).

[BennyB]

Maybe something to convince the boss: What made MixVibes famous in the past? Listening to its users! I know, you are interested in market share and money (as stated in the linux thread, months ago) - this is the way a business works, I am not with stupid, but think of free minds and being the first one who delivers a professional (!) mixing programme on Linux (forget about mixxx, this is rubbish!).

I fully agree. The name Cross has the Cross platform capability inside it.
We don't have much stability experience on Ubuntu regarding DJ software, but, this can be a high jump.

Dev team should at least try a beta test one, for guys, who can run Jack, and stuff like that, and see if it works. And if the beta doesn't make it, you can stop.

Besides: Ubuntu and any Linux distribution can be optimised, so very slow machines can run everything.
And caring users have an Ubuntu next to Win7, to choose what to boot from.

[Blackbrook]

You can even design and built a custom linux version, I have written down all of this months ago

[Di Rossi]

So

Hopefully windows will damage itself with Win8 and loose A LOT of market share, but I doubt it meanwhile :-(

Actually, Win8 is not so useful on PCs, only on tablets mostly... but this OS is to early.

Let's go offtopic, as this question seems solved, and talk about Microsoft. They think they can do something and everybody is following. For a lot of people, talking in percent I would suggest 60% to 70%, this is true, because they have no deeper knowledge and are happy if their bought PC is delivered with an OS which allows to go to Facebook and check mails.
But there are a lot of users like we are: technically interested, independent and with a free mind. Those guys are able to realize what Microsoft is doing: Going its own way without listening to the users. They think progamming for tablets is the best way because in the future everybody will have a tablet to use instead of a computer or laptop. Desktop machines and laptops will die, so does the "old" operating system and its usability. What if they are wrong? What if there are people who continue using machines as they were used to?
Asking me, Win8 is a fault which Win9 might correct. With Win9 they might introduce two versions: one for touchpads and one for desktop and PCs. On Linux the KDE project and Ubuntu did something similar: At the time when netbooks with their small resolution became popular they build to versions: one for netbooks, with big buttons to press and everything optimised for this resolution and the other one as the common version everybody was used to. Why the heck does not Microsoft behave this way? For a big company as they are this means just a little less variation regarding the GUI - that's it. And don't tell me that I can use the "old" desktop - I know that I can change to that, but why does the Metro GUI (which is not allowed to be called Metro - but who cares?!) start while booting windows? For sure, there will be autostart tweaks which will show the desktop after booting, but this is bullshit.
I could continue talking about this the whole day, coming up with arguments and things to talk about within minutes, but I think I told you what I think about it. If there will ever be a linux version of Cross I would be so thankful - you can't imagine!
Thanks for reading!

Maybe something to convince the boss: What made MixVibes famous in the past? Listening to its users! I know, you are interested in market share and money (as stated in the linux thread, months ago) - this is the way a business works, I am not with stupid, but think of free minds and being the first one who delivers a professional (!) mixing programme on Linux (forget about mixxx, this is rubbish!).

So true....so so true.....i agree with you guys....i fancy so much ubuntu...and i really believe that ubuntu is a truly, great OS to run softwares whit out problems and crashes...and run smoothly on any PC...I just seen advantage...and Dub it´s so true Cross gain market because the "relation" with the users...that was the main reason for me to use Cross...